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08-13-2002, 10:07 AM
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raindropple, no need to get hostile on me. Some guy asked me to post quotes, so I did. I could not have known that they were translated wrong...
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08-13-2002, 10:10 AM
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Looks like he has one. m. |
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08-13-2002, 10:20 AM
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In the name of Al-Lat, the Merciful, the Compassionate
In the days before Islam, the Arabs had a pantheon of gods and goddesses. They had, for example, one goddess called Wadd, which is Arabic for "love". And now they have that chest-thumping, ball-bearing prick called Allah. Some progress! Nature bless |
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08-14-2002, 10:07 AM
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Allah does not need an editor, but I find it amazing that people confuse the mistakes of men withe "mistakes" of g-d. Allah makes no mistakes. People on here seem to have been infected withe the godididit syndrome: *When something good happens, theists say goddidit, yet they believe in free will. When something bad happens, atheists say goddidit, yet they don't even believe in g-d! typical of the hypocritical!* |
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08-14-2002, 10:13 AM
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[ August 14, 2002: Message edited by: ansarthemystic ]</p> |
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08-14-2002, 10:24 AM
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As far a Allah(SWT) being a chest-thumping prick, that can only be considered a personal opinion which has no foundation in the Qur'an, and has no place in a debate!Besides Wadd is an idol, and you are an idolater, so of course you are sympathetic to this "goddess". Why don't you read about the sacrifices required by these "gods" and "goddesses" of the Arabian pantheon before you decide that they are better than Allah(SWT)?You will be suprissed! I have a Question? How do we know "wadd" exists? Can we see it? Can we test it's scientific validity? Will any humans really deny it's existence? Does it's imperfect conception lead one to believe in it's non-existence. peace and blessings |
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08-14-2002, 10:36 AM
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Really? Then why does the Qur'an refer to Allah as huwa instead of hiya? Oh, I forgot: no neuter pronoun... yet the masculine pronoun is strangely preferred. I wonder who made the religion... Quote:
You gotta be kidding! More than half the Qur'an is full of Allah telling mankind how great he is, how they must obey him, how he is saree' ul-hisaab (fast to reckon) and shadeed ul-iqaab (mighty in punishment). The Qur'an is a grand monument to Allah's puffed-up ego! Quote:
Ignoring the ad hominem - I do not worship Wadd. Nor Al-Lat, nor Al-Manat, nor Al-Uzzah. I worship Nature (trees, stones, sun, moon, stars etc). I do not believe in gods except as symbols for the holy All (=Nature). Quote:
At least those gods and goddesses didn't demand jihad against infidels and veiling women and smashing statues and all that sick-brained stuff that's characteristic of Islam now. Pagans and atheists know how to live and let live with each other. The trouble begins when monotheism arrives. Natura te benedicat. Barakat at-tabee'ah 'alaik. |
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08-14-2002, 10:44 AM
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*edited because I am fallible*
[ August 14, 2002: Message edited by: Bibliophile ]</p> |
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08-14-2002, 10:54 AM
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Ansar, What I have continued to point out is that DON'T YOU FIND IT ODD THAT ALLAH WOULD ALLOW FOR SO MANY ERRONEOUS TRANSLATIONS OF THE QURAN? What I find mind-numbing is that you think the Bible and the Torah were corrupted. Furthermore, you think the Quaran is Allah's method of correcting these corruptions. Yet, when confronted with the corruption of Allah's most recent revelation (aka the Quran), you put the blame squarely back on man! Questions: 1) Being omniscient, why did Allah not foresee yet another debacle in relation to his "divine revelation"? 2) Being omnipotent, why did Allah not create one text from the very beginning that is uniformly followed among Muslims? 3) What evidence do you have that Allah makes no mistakes? As for the godditit syndrome, well, I do not believe in the Muslim, Christian, or Jewish versions of God. That being said, I am not trying to disprove His existence to you. Rather, for the sake of argument, I am assuming that he exists so I can draw parallels between an alleged logical being and His very illogical (and erroneous) text! You may be right dear Ansar, the more I look at Islam, the more I think that Allah doesn't need an editor. Rather, I think HE needs a frontal lobotomy! [ August 14, 2002: Message edited by: Bibliophile ]</p> |
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08-14-2002, 02:33 PM
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If so, would you please point to one example of your atheists say goddidit on this site... If you seriously believe your statement, you will offer an example where the atheist was being serious in his blaming god for something... In other words, try to find one where the atheist was not making a joke... My point is, this is a very common listening mistake by most believers... Actually, I'm just being nice... I don't really think that it's a mistake IMO, it's almost always, an intentional twist of the atheist's statement... Please show me that I'm wrong about your statement... |
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