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Old 07-24-2003, 09:55 AM   #31
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Or two, depending on whether you consider Hemiptera and Homoptera to be two orders or combine them into one
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Old 07-28-2003, 01:58 AM   #32
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Question Mayflies, monotremes and bird pouches

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Here's another tidbit about mayflies that Oolon may find useful: they are the only (living) insects that molt after having functional wings. They emerge from the water in their penultimate instar (dun) with wings and can fly (but poorly), but then molt again within a matter of hours to become a fully mature adult that is a good flier and capable of breeding. Why not do like all other aquatic insects do, and go straight from the aquatic nymph to the fully functional winged adult????
Well, I finally got to check my insect book (Chinery, Freeman, Oldroyd et al, 1979, Insects: An illustrated survey of the most successful animals on earth). On mayflies, it says:
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Mayflies have the further distinction of being the only insects which moult after their wings have fully extended. This is not a throwback to a primitive condition, but a special adaptation to the lives of these particular insects. Nymphs of mayflies do not crawl out of the water before the adult emerges, but this emergence takes place at the water surface, or even just below. Surface tension is a most powerful and dangerous force at that time, and if the insect were wetted is would not be able to break away. The first winged form is covered with fine hairs which prevent wetting, and is called a ‘dun’ by fishermen, and a ‘subimago’ by entomologists. Having safely escaped from the grip of the water surface, the dun moults again, revealing the full colour and pattern of the adult mayfly, which is now called a ‘spinner’. All is now ready for the mating flight.
Which makes sense, as far as it goes, but still doesn’t explain why they can’t do it the way of other aquatic insects! All the rest get out of the water okay, and to do it the mayfly way wastes a whole exoskeleton.

The problem with ‘my’ list -- currently at the printed-off and proofreading stage -- is that I keep turning up more items! There’s those dolphin embryo hindlimb buds, and I’ve been debating with myself as to whether there’s something ludicrous about echidnas (apart from the reduced poison spur).

Apparently, echidnas can curl up when laying their eggs (which are very small), and so in effect lay the egg straight into the pouch. Fine. But why not lay it there from an inside opening, as I suggested for marsupials? And then, why does it need a shell? Shells are for holding things together while outside the body.

But I’ve not convinced myself it’s a really stupid design.

Conversely, one might think that if a pouch is a Good Idea™ for an egg-laying thing, that it would save birds having to fanny around with nests. Ah, you’ll say, but birds have to fly, and having a nestfull of infants in a pouch would make flight difficult. Sure... but not for flightless birds! If a kangaroo pouch is so great a design, why don’t ostriches have it?!

But like I say, I’ve not convinced myself. Can anyone else suggest why these things are good design really? Or more flaws with these designs?

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Old 07-29-2003, 01:26 AM   #33
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Just to say, thanks for all the help, guys! :notworthy

I'll let you know when I get some usable pics.

Cheers, Oolon
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