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Old 06-09-2003, 05:02 PM   #1
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Default 10 C's protesters in Ohio

The arrests occurred at West Union High School in Adams County, WLWT Eyewitness News 5 reported.


Following the arrests, the tablets were removed from school property by crane, WLWT reported.


Police arrested only 10 protesters because they did not have space to jail more than that, according to WLWT.



http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...o_wlwt/1651632

If the 10C's are the basis of US laws, which one(s) did these people violate to get thrown in jail?

Probably they are the basis for our laws, except separation laws.

Those have been hijacked by Satan and T. Jefferson!
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I just read this article whilst looking for stories to submit to Fark.

Barry Baker, I raise my glass to you. You did a great job! You're an inspiration to freethinkers everywhere!
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Here's a nice picture of the 10C's coming down.
 
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The nine protesters responded to warnings to leave with a prayer for the "grace to endure this experience.’’ Then they were escorted away.

The deputies leading them to patrol cars confronted the nine not with handcuffs, but with consoling pats on the back.


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At West Union High School, Superintendent Pat Kimble sympathetically asked protesters to leave, and Fulton pleaded with protesters to limit their numbers to ease the deputies’ workload.

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A minister called for the audience to pray for him to find "love and God.’’ Baker briskly walked away from the rally.

Asked what he hoped to see, Baker replied: "The law enforced . . . They’ll come down; they’re immoral.’’

Lely Palmer interrupted him as he strode toward Rt. 41. The Head Start teacher asked to shake his hand and then, in the only public display of support at the time, thanked him.

"Even though I believe in the Ten Commandments, this is a public school,’’ Palmer said. "It is very inappropriate. We need to concentrate on teaching children to read and write and not insert this issue.’’


from; http://www.dispatch.com/news-story.p...610-00202.html (requires paid registration, unless you get the print edition)

Around here, people who have resisted abiding by the law have been selling yard posters which have the 10C's on them and state "we support the 10C's)

Isn't it grand that those people can state what they believe on their own property but those who don't will not have to see their tax money used in this way?

I've wondered if perhaps there would be a market for yard signs supporting the Bill of Rights?
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A friend from another message board collected and published a list of the Ten Commandments and Penalties. Since I am a chat room chick, I usually have a Notepad window open to this list. (I happen to have said window open now.) It's fun to remind believers that if they support the Ten Commanements, they support KILLING ME.
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to have an author. The quotes are all from the New Revised Standard Version, except that I have rendered the Hebrew tetragrammon YHVH everywhere as "Yahveh" instead of the capitalized LORD or GOD.

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THE UNCENSORED TEN COMMANDMENTS

The First Commandment: Exodus 20:2, Deuteronomy 5:6
I am Yahveh your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me.

The First Penalty:
Exodus 22:20 Whoever sacrifices to any god, save to Yahveh
only, shall be utterly destroyed.
Deuteronomy 13:6-9 If your brother, the son of your mother, or your daughter, or the wife of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, entices you secretly, saying, 'let us go and serve other gods', ... you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you
conceal him; but you shall kill him; your hand shall be first against
him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

The Second Commandment: Exodus 20:4, Deuteronomy 5:8
You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of
anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I Yahveh your God am a jealous god, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.

The Second Penalty: Exodus 32:27 Thus says Yahveh God of Israel, put every man his sword on his side, and go to and fro from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor. [Who broke the above commandment.]

The Third Commandment: Exodus 20:7, Deuteronomy 5:11
You shall not take the name of Yahveh your God in vain; for Yahveh will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.

The Third Penalty: Leviticus 24:16 He who blasphemes the name of Yahveh shall be put to death; all of the congregation shall stone him.

The Fourth Commandment: Exodus 20:8, Deuteronomy 5:12
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work; but the seventh day is a sabbath to Yahveh your God; in it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, or your male slave, or your female slave, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates; for in six days Yahveh made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day; therefore Yahveh blessed the seventh day and hallowed it.

The Fourth Penalty: Exodus 31:14-15 You shall keep the sabbath,
because it is holy for you; every one who profanes it shall be put to death; whoever does any work on it, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a sabbath of solemn rest, holy to Yahveh; whoever does any work on the sabbath day shall be put to death.
Exodus 35:2 Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh
day you shall have a holy sabbath of solemn rest to Yahveh; whoever does any work on it shall be put to death; you shall kindle no fire in all your habitations on the sabbath day.

The Fifth Commandment: Exodus 20:12, Deuteronomy 5:16
Honor your father and mother, that your days may be long in the land which Yahveh your God gives you.

The Fifth Penalty: Leviticus 20:9 For every one who curses his father or his mother shall be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother, his blood is upon him.
Matthew 15:4 For Yahveh commanded, "honor your father and
your mother", and "He who speaks evil of father or mother, let him surely die."
Deuteronomy 21:18 If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son,
who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother.... Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones...
[Also relevant here is Proverbs 23:13-14. Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.]

The Sixth Commandment: Exodus 20:13, Deuteronomy 5:17
You shall not kill.

The Sixth Penalty: Exodus 21:12 Whoever strikes a man so that he dies shall be put to death.
Leviticus 24:17 He who kills a man shall be put to death.

The Seventh Commandment: Exodus 20:14, Deuteronomy 5:18
You shall not commit adultery.

The Seventh Penalty: Leviticus 20:10 If a man commit adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death.

Deuteronomy 22:22 If a man is found lying with the wife of
another man, both of them shall die, the man who lay with the woman, and the woman; so shall you purge the evil from Israel. [Having multiple wives, or keeping concubines, or having sex with prostitutes, is not adultery; adultery in the Bible consists of
creating doubt about paternity, i.e. having sex with another man's wife.]

The remaining three Commandments have lesser penalties, but the original text is still worth reading.

The Eighth Commandment: Exodus 20:15, Deuteronomy 5:19
You shall not steal.

The Eighth Penalty: For stealing slaves, Exodus 21:16 Whoever steals a man, whether he sells him or is found in possession of him, shall be put to death. For a thief caught in the act, Exodus 22:2 If a thief is found breaking in, and is struck so that he dies, there shall be no bloodguilt for him; but if the sun has risen on him, there shall be bloodguilt for him.

For stealing most things other than slaves, penalties involve
making restitution and paying fines. Exodus 22:1-3 If a man steals an ox or a sheep, and kills it or sells it, he shall pay five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep... If the stolen beast is found in his possession... he shall pay double. He shall make restitution; if he has nothing, then he shall be sold [into slavery] for his theft.

The Ninth Commandment: Exodus 20:16, Deuteronomy 5:20
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

The Ninth Penalty: Prov. 19:9 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish. This seems to be more of a rhetorical warning than a law, however. Some examples: 1 Kings 21, 2 Kings 5, those who testified falsely got off with only a curse on themselves and their
descendants.

The Tenth Commandment: Exodus 20:17, Deuteronomy 5:21
You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male slave, or his female slave, or his ox, or his ass, or anything that is your neighbor's.

There seems to be no particular penalty specified in the Bible for
this, though there are dire warnings of doom for those who break any of the Commandments. Deuteronomy 28:17-68 is a great rant, very much worth reading.

Matthew 5:17 Jesus says: Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them. For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

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Around here, people who have resisted abiding by the law have been selling yard posters which have the 10C's on them and state "we support the 10C's)

Isn't it grand that those people can state what they believe on their own property but those who don't will not have to see their tax money used in this way?

I've wondered if perhaps there would be a market for yard signs supporting the Bill of Rights?
How about a poster of a scroll with the numbers 1-10 printed on it, and the tagline: "I support the TEN AMENDMENTS" ?

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Good idea!
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was anyone else watching the segment on this on "scarborough country" on msnbc? god these people are scary. they had this guy on (with hat with a cross on it no less) talking about how "85 percent of my redneck filled town" or something wanted them there, and that this was tyranny of the minority. yes all of a sudden the bill of rights doesn't protect the minority, and your shitty town now has majority rule over the constitution.

then he went on about how these are the basis of our laws blah blah blah

the aclu guy wasn't there unfortunately. it was also mentioned that the ten commandments are in the supreme court??

grrr....
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was anyone else watching the segment on this on "scarborough country" on msnbc? god these people are scary. they had this guy on (with hat with a cross on it no less) talking about how "85 percent of my redneck filled town" or something wanted them there, and that this was tyranny of the minority. yes all of a sudden the bill of rights doesn't protect the minority, and your shitty town now has majority rule over the constitution.

then he went on about how these are the basis of our laws blah blah blah

the aclu guy wasn't there unfortunately. it was also mentioned that the ten commandments are in the supreme court??

grrr....
i saw that thing it was hilarious!! i love that show--its like landover baptist church in terms of outrageous satire! it IS a satire...right?

well yeah i saw that guy...apparently iraq is a buddist nation now, and america is a christian nation
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it was also mentioned that the ten commandments are in the supreme court??

grrr....
Not really. Moses is there with about 20 other lawgivers, holding a stone tablet. No writing visible. He's just one in a long line of lawgivers.

There is also a door with Roman numerals I through X, I think. (Probably representing the Ten Amendments )

Certainly nothing like what people imagine when they say "The 10C are posted at the Supreme Court."
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