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Old 12-10-2001, 08:43 PM   #111
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Excellent - it's good to know that I am going to Heaven. And it will be good to see Anne Frank up there, too.
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Hell IS NOT "God's", in fact, God created hell (actually we dont know how hell was formed), but in any case, it is for Satan. Not for men. Why do you thing God sent His only Son to die, so that all men might go to Heaven. Not hell.

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I am choosing to highlight this passage, because although I haven't read enough of the posts to make a complete reply, this passage stuck out as a misdirected, wrong, and misleading statement that needs to be corrected immediately. Hell IS NOT "God's", in fact, God created hell (actually we dont know how hell was formed), but in any case, it is for Satan. Not for men. Why do you thing God sent His only Son to die, so that all men might go to Heaven. Not hell.</strong>
My idea of Hell is having to read through your ridiculous posts and hearing even more crap about god,jesus and mythological child abuse.
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<strong>I am choosing to highlight this passage, because although I haven't read enough of the posts to make a complete reply, this passage stuck out as a misdirected, wrong, and misleading statement that needs to be corrected immediately. Hell IS NOT "God's", in fact, God created hell (actually we dont know how hell was formed), but in any case, it is for Satan. Not for men. Why do you thing God sent His only Son to die, so that all men might go to Heaven. Not hell.</strong>
Well have you read <a href="http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/apologetics.asp" target="_blank">Answers In Genesis's Apologetics section</a>?

They have a section called "Is there really a hell where the unsaved will be eternally punished?"
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<a href="http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/web/crj0085a.html" target="_blank">Evangelicals and the Annihilation of Hell — Part One</a> and <a href="http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/web/crj0137a.html" target="_blank">Part Two</a>.

It is true that the Jehovah's Witnesses believe that hell is only for the devil... so are you are a Jehovah's Witness? Or is your knowledge about hell better than these creationists?

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so that all men might go to Heaven. Not hell.</strong>
Where do all the women go? I volunteer to take buttercup since she admits she should shut up and be submissive to men.

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Alas poor Jacey! Me thinketh sweet buttercup hath been chased away.... . Back to the "Bible-Borg" where the male-Borg can thinketh for her.
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Originally posted by yep, you guys know everything:

<strong>Hell IS NOT "God's", in fact, God created hell (actually we dont know how hell was formed)</strong>

If you don't know how it was formed, then how can you say that your god created it? And if he created it, then it is his, whether or not you like the fact.

<strong>but in any case, it is for Satan. Not for men.</strong>

Good. Then maybe your god should keep Satan in and men out, instead of letting Satan wander around the world and kill people (see the book of Job if you have any questions).

<strong>Why do you thing God sent His only Son to die, so that all men might go to Heaven. Not hell.</strong>

"For God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him would believe pretty much anything."
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<strong>Originally posted by yep, you guys know everything:</strong>

<strong>Hell IS NOT "God's", in fact, God created hell (actually we dont know how hell was formed)</strong>

duhhhhhh....you just told us how [waving magic wand] "goddidit" <img src="graemlins/banghead.gif" border="0" alt="[Bang Head]" />


<strong>Why do you thing God sent His only Son to die, so that all men might go to Heaven. Not hell.</strong> hmmmm.... "thing" or think??

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<strong>"For God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him would believe pretty much anything."</strong>
LOL QoS!

This one always cracks me up, like it's suppose to be such a profound statement that makes us all stop in our tracks as a litle lightbulb goes off over our heads and it all suddenly makes perfect sense! Hey fundies....what is the BFD?! If God is omniscient and pre-ordained everything, then he knew Jesus the mortal would die on a cross to be resurrected as "GOD-MAN!" Obviously, a few steps up from mere mortal and peasant jew, right? So why was that such a "great sacrifice" for God to make for us when he knew what the outcome was already? What you people don't understand, because you never take your noses out of the Bible, is that this was a very typical myth or tale for it's day. Lots of other Pagan beliefs had a story of a God-man that died and was resurrected for mankind's "salvation". Mithra did it 2,000+ years earlier, but YOU make it sound like it's SO unique to the human experience, that it simply MUST be true. You accept a fanciful fairy tale, from an era that was FULL of such tales, as a true event with nothing more than blind faith to back up your claim, no further examination on your part (that's where WE kept going), and then you throw out your silly little non-sensical statement, "Why do you thing God sent His only Son to die, so that all men might go to Heaven. Not hell."..... thinking it's going to be this incredibly undebatable assertion that NO one will be capable of arguing against. <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" />

Oy!

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Rhea, Jacey, MOJO-JOJO, et alii:

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Rhea: I was really, honestly wondering how you can discuss religion on a web and not violate Paul's commandment to not teach.
Jacey: Where do all the women go? I volunteer to take buttercup since she admits she should shut up and be submissive to men.
MOJO-JOJO: Me thinketh sweet buttercup hath been chased away.... . Back to the "Bible-Borg" where the male-Borg can thinketh for her.
This is a misrepresentation of even the conservative interpretation of Paul’s teaching. The people who take a literal view on his teaching (this does not include the ones who say that this command does not apply today) would say that it applies to public worship (church service). In other words, it prohibits women from teaching in church. This is the view generally held by the reformed churches of which I am aware (PCA, Orthodox Presbyterian, Reformed Baptist, and others – I do not have a listing of the denominations on had at the moment, but there are more). Therefore, it would not prohibit a woman from posting on a forum like this one.

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<strong> Therefore, it would not prohibit a woman from posting on a forum like this one.

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Well, granted it's not in the Bible that "Women shall not preach to the heathen on the internet." But it would be an area subject to denominational interpretation I suppose. Don't ask the Mormons or Church of Christ believers. They'll tell you ixnay on the eaching-pray if there is the potential that any men would read it. But then we ARE talking about two of the most anti-female cults in the world today.

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