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Feather · 02-21-2003, 07:00 PM

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Church representatives urged against an abortion, while feminist groups and children's advocates argued that the girl's parents should be able to obtain an abortion for their only daughter.

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Abortion is illegal in Nicaragua except in exceptional circumstances, such as when the mother's life is in danger.

The family's own minister encouraged a nine year old girl to carry to term. Sickening.

(PS: Mods I'm not sure if this is better suited for CSS&S or Politics, but I figured it fits in better here.)

02-22-2003, 10:22 AM

The catholic church is totally consistent in being against all abortion. In addition, the pope has spoken approvingly of a woman who refused an abortion after being (correctly) warned that continuing with the pregnancy would mean her death and that of the foetus, leaving her existing children motherless.

Praise god, who lets this stuff happen and inspires his church to stick to the truth through thick and thin!

Just Another Infidel · 02-22-2003, 06:02 PM

this will really piss you off.

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The anti-abortion movement in the United States was created in response to the U.S. Supreme Court ruling on Roe v. Wade in 1973, which legalized abortion. However, it really owes its origin to a group of men in Rome 103 years earlier. This was 1870, the year of Vatican Council I, a conclave of great importance in recent church history. Why is this so?

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Roman Catholics could be certain that the teachings of the pope and of God were one and the same, and, if strictly followed, one�s entrance into heaven was guaranteed. Communicants found this concept very attractive and were eager to behave in any manner required of them. Such an arrangement placed enormous control over individuals into the hands of the Vatican, extending across national borders and even to the other side of the world. It could no longer control the laity by means of its governance, as it had in the Papal States which would later become Italy. But the Holy See could exercise control directly by adopting a policy of psychological coercion founded on a new doctrine�that of papal infallibility.

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In this and other texts, the pope took the position that a change on the birth control issue would destroy the principle of papal infallibility, and that infallibility was the fundamental principle of the Church upon which all else rests. A change on birth control would immediately raise questions about other possible errors popes have made in matters of divorce, homosexuality, confession, parochial schooling, etc. that are fundamental to Roman Catholicism.

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But who is the Religious Right? The Spring 1994 issue of Conscience, the journal of Catholics for a Free Choice, exploded the myth that the Religious Right is a Protestant movement. It was designed, created, and controlled by Catholics in response to the Pastoral Plan. These Catholics recruited opportunistic Protestants to give the appearance that Protestants were the instigators. The leadership is Catholic but the followers are often Protestant. The National Catholic Reporter predicted that the Bishops� Pastoral Plan would lead to the creation of a new political party, an American Catholic Party.24 But instead, the Vatican simply chose to seize control of the Republican Party.

Long article, but a good read.

JAI

02-22-2003, 11:31 PM

That's a brilliant article. Thanks for the link, JAI.

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02-22-2003, 10:22 AM	#2
DMB Guest Posts: n/a	The catholic church is totally consistent in being against all abortion. In addition, the pope has spoken approvingly of a woman who refused an abortion after being (correctly) warned that continuing with the pregnancy would mean her death and that of the foetus, leaving her existing children motherless. Praise god, who lets this stuff happen and inspires his church to stick to the truth through thick and thin!

02-22-2003, 11:31 PM	#4
DMB Guest Posts: n/a	That's a brilliant article. Thanks for the link, JAI.

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