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Danielle · 08-11-2002, 01:08 PM

Mayhap if hell existed it would be hot.

but it doesn't, so it isn't.

the most i can say on this topic is, how can we experience something, when we don't have the right media with which to experience it? as Zimyatin stated, you don't have your body. because the body is dead. also, you are limited to the physical extremes you felt during life, because it is eternity, that mean that time no longer exists, therefore you cannot have any original feelings; such as intense heat.

Samhain · 08-11-2002, 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by Gemma Therese:


I think you need some help to work out your animosity towards Christianity.

I bet you are young.

Gemma Therese

The problem has mainly to do with the fact that she will take no one on in a rational, logical or reasonable debate. She continues to postulate nonsense like that which is seen above to somehow futher her position, when all it does is destroy her credibility and lend to the idea that she is nothing more than a fool who knows nothing of reason, nothing of her religion and nothing of ethics or morality. Of course, my posts have been summarily ignored by Gemma, the main reason being, I think, that I question her motives.

So Gemma, besides attempting to create strife, do you have any motive here at II?

ex-preacher · 08-11-2002, 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by Gemma Therese:


I think you need some help to work out your animosity towards Christianity.

I bet you are young.

What an insightful and condescending answer. I've been wondering about your age, Gemma. Based on the quality of thought in your posts, I'm guessing that you are about 14. Am I close? For what it's worth, I'm a mere 39 years of age. I have no animosity towards Christianity, but I also do not suffer fools gladly.

kwigibo · 08-11-2002, 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by Gemma Therese:


The times in our lives when we don't "feel" close to God -- during these times, our relationship with Him is actually at its strongest. Faith in God is not about "emotion", it is about our fidelity to Him.

That is very watered down.

Gemma Therese

He is a jealous god, Gerry, that's why he never lets me leave the house by myself, or wear anything sexy. I mean, Gerry, i'm my own person dammit, and he's always burning me even if i talk to another god. You don't own me yahweh! from now on, i'm doing what i want to do!

Demigawd · 08-11-2002, 04:02 PM

Hell is for children.
-Pat Benatar, Sometime during the '80s.

Gemma Therese · 08-11-2002, 04:53 PM

I AM CONFUSED!!!!!!!

Gemma Therese

[ August 11, 2002: Message edited by: Gemma Therese ]

hinduwoman · 08-11-2002, 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by Zimyatin:
Hi fellow infidels! I was wasting my time thinking so I thought I would share. The subject today is Hell and why it makes little sense to me.

Our souls are separate from our body, right? So if we get impailed with a fishing rod and die our soul leaves our earthly body and ascends to heaven, Valhalla (my fav), or descends to hell (hot flames and flatulence). Only our earthly flesh and blood can feel pain (damn those nerves!).

Now, in order to feel pain you need a human body. But it's the soul that is sentenced to eternal damnation. If Satan jabbed you with a hot poker would you care? Hah, hah, Satan, that tickles.

Uh, but in Hinduism that loophole had been plugged early. When you die you discard only your gross material body. Your soul after death slips into a subtle material body which cannot be seen by the living. But it is a material body and so that is the one which gets tortured in hell, or enjoys the pleasures of lower heavens.

ex-preacher · 08-11-2002, 06:15 PM

Is that really you? Or is it the lady who lives next to Hyacinth Bucket?

Splat · 08-11-2002, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by Gemma Therese:
I AM CONFUSED!!!!!!!
...
Gemma Therese

Hey! GT finally said something I think we can all agree is unconditionally true!

And bless your heart, li'l cowgirl, you didn't even need some famous saint nun to say it first.

[ August 11, 2002: Message edited by: Splat ]

Gemma Therese · 08-11-2002, 06:36 PM

"I'm not okay. You're not okay. But that's okay."

Elisabeth Kubler-Ross

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Danielle New Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1	Mayhap if hell existed it would be hot. but it doesn't, so it isn't. the most i can say on this topic is, how can we experience something, when we don't have the right media with which to experience it? as Zimyatin stated, you don't have your body. because the body is dead. also, you are limited to the physical extremes you felt during life, because it is eternity, that mean that time no longer exists, therefore you cannot have any original feelings; such as intense heat.

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Demigawd Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: On a sailing ship to nowhere, leaving any place Posts: 2,254	Hell is for children. -Pat Benatar, Sometime during the '80s.

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ex-preacher Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: University of Arkansas Posts: 1,033	Is that really you? Or is it the lady who lives next to Hyacinth Bucket?

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