Osiris

From: http://www.creationism.org/csshs/v03n1p05.htm

So God didn't create nature? But I thought he created the Heavens and Earth.

I guess when you believe in God, you are free from nature.
You mean you don't have to abide by the rules of nature? Wooo-hooo! Hey mister creationist, please stand in front of this fast moving projectile.

God created man and nothing else? Ironic how our method of reproduction is similar to mammals not created by God. Copy cat!

Osiris

More from that same page: http://www.creationism.org/csshs/v03n1p05.htm

Basically he is saying the concept of evolution is flawed because it is based on science, which requires order or determinism, but also says life was created by sponstaneous generation, and evolution is based on chaos or mutation. The creationists says you can't have it both ways, so "game over" dude.

So evolution is not a valid scientific theory because it conflicts with science.

Duvenoy

Another fascinating bit of hysteria from the excellent Dr? Dino:

Source: http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=articles&specific=34 [April 2003]

20 feet up the tree and turned to 'stone' in only a few years? Ok, lessee, for the adult hound to have been trapped in a hollow in the tree (kinda unlikely), said tree would have to have been a mature one. These have a slower growth rate than a sapling. So, to get the mutt up 20 feet would take, how long? I don't know either, but it'd be a lot longer than a 'few' years. Perhaps it's a really vigorus species of super-tree.

So, what pray, is a chestnut oak? And what pray, have you been smoking; the mushrooms growing on it?

The page the source is on is worth a glance. There's a oouple of good chuckles in there.

doov

Mageth

These have a slower growth rate than a sapling. So, to get the mutt up 20 feet would take, how long? I don't know either, but it'd be a lot longer than a 'few' years. Perhaps it's a really vigorus species of super-tree.

Err, trees don't grow that way. New vertical growth is only added at the top; the middle and bottom don't rise (but do grow out). If a new branch emerges 10 feet from the ground, in 10, 20, or 100 years, if the branch is still there, it will still be 10 feet from the ground. So if the hound was trapped 20 feet off the ground, in 10, 10, or 100 years, the hound (or what was left of it) would still be 20 feet off the ground, unless something dislodged it. For the hound to have been trapped 20 feet up, it would have had to climbed up the 20 feet inside the hollow tree (not an impossible task for a determined hound after its prey).

I suspect the dog was mummified or "tanned", not petrified. Oak have lots of tannin; tannin is used in...tanning, or curing leather.

Oh, and this is a chestnut oak.

MrDarwin

Is "Dr." Hovind truly so stupid that he doesn't know the difference between fossilized, petrified, and mummified, or is he intentionally misleading people?

Mummified Hound Dog Guards Southern Forest Museum

caravelair

speaking of kent hovind, there are a plethora of amusing quotes to be found here:

http://www.geocities.com/kenthovind/quotes/index.htm

Mageth

Or maybe both?

(just as I suspected, MrDarwin. Thanks for the link).

ps418

So much for the evilutionist claim that mummies take millions of years to form! And yes, he is that stupid. Anytime you have AiG bitch-slapping you for using poor creationist arguments, you must be stupid.

Patrick

caravelair

some favorites from the site i posted above:

"If evolution is true, you could not know that it's true because your brain is nothing but chemicals. Think about that."

"Before the flood, there was no cold climates in the world. It was seventy-five degrees from pole-to-pole. The temperature was perfect everywhere."

"You say, “Brother Hovind, you don't believe in fire breathing dragons do you?” Yeah, you better watch video tape number three; there really were fire breathing dragons."

"Water or ice, it might have been ice because ice at low temperatures becomes magnetic and you can actually suspend it in the magnetic field of the earth. It is called the Mysner [sic] Effect."

"Suppose when we get to heaven God [.....] gives you an eyeball that is capable of seeing all the frequencies on the [electromagnetic] spectrum. That means that you would be able to see the radio waves going through the air as a color. Also, you would be able to see the sounds that come from a piano."

Duvenoy

So, there is such a thing as a 'chesnut' oak? And i should have remembered about tree growth. Was caught up in the excitement of the moment.

This whole thing is, of course, a put-on for tourists. When I was a kid in S. GA and N. FL,, almost every wide spot in the road, it seemed, had some combination of 'gator/rattlesnake farm, museum, and gas station. I even worked at one for couple of seasons Here was where you found such amazments as the Jackalope, Horned Frog, fur-bearing Trout, and other examples of the taxidermist's art. Some of them were pretty good. And this is what the aborial pooch is. It might even be a stone carving, rather than a mummy, as I first thought. Tourists'll believe anything.

doov