echidna

Hey, what happened ? Did the Nut just make a serious post ? :notworthy

River

No , not equally. Most of the Bible is incomprehensible unless you apply metaphorical meaning....i.e YEC, Global Flood, Original Sin. So, the literal meaning takes the back seat. With the Qur'an the Literal meaning predominates with some metaphorical meaning being (interspersed) sometimes of secondary importance. The overall message of the Qur'an is clear and doesnt waste time wrestling with topics like Young Earth or Original Sin. Most people here think I'm making random stuff up..and believe my allegorical interpretation is a cop out. But I bet few here realize that the whole Qur'an (arabic) actually rhymes. The Qur'an is somewhere between prose and poetry. It isnt actually poetry ( because poets speak out of desire, as stated in Quran) because it violates the 7 laws of "human" poetry adopted by arabs at the time. The Qur'an is on a class of its own.

River

Well the message got hijacked over time. And now there is the new domestic threat(to Islam) by the dajjali taliban system (Tribulations)...which was prophecised in Hadiths. It states that it is" purist Islam" yet in actuallity it is the perversion of Islamic ideals. These movements are responsible for making Islam an ambiguous message. The truth is Islamic jurisprudence , law and science are extremely well developed and this is due to those that possessed knowledge like for example the Caliph Ali. After the 1800's Islamic countries starting straying away from Qur'anic values and became personally responsible for their collapse. As well as colonial powers that infiltrated the muslim governments and caused confusion.

echidna

But you are a true Islamic Scotsman ?

River

Kat_Somm_Faen

Hmm yet Quran purports to being unadulterated, direct word of God. Is God unable to express himeself clearly and unambiguously enough to prevent this? Able but unwilling?

River

Well, the Qur'an is intact as it was 1400 years ago. It is indeed unadulterated, a pristine Scripture.

The Taliban group's leader Mulla Umar, responsible for singlehandedly destroying Islam's name.....is actually prophecised as the "one-eyed man from Khurasan"...in Hadiths. He bears a striking resemblance to the " Dajjal-al Masih" or " Dark Messiah" descriptions in the Hadiths.

Kat_Somm_Faen

I am sure Mulla Omar would disagree with you but I can't confirm it unfortunately!

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Edit: Why would one take the Hadiths seriously as anything else but the sayings of Muhammed? Is Muhhameds word to be revered? Are you holding Muhhamed in equal to the Quran?

River

Well Mulla Umar, believes that Allah came to him in Hu-man form..... If you believe him to be representative of Islam ...then we're in trouble.

Kat_Somm_Faen

But the Hadiths are not the word of God. Why do you care about them?