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Old 07-25-2003, 12:38 PM   #11
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I am so glad people like do not come to my door, or when they do the loud barking and big fangs of our beautiful dobie scares them away!

If I had a headache I don't know I would have as much patience. Kudos to you for a job well done!

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Thanks. Actually, the headache was fading. I think I just didn't have the energy to get belligerent with him. I don't think I ever have that kind of energy anymore. This is a good thing. One doesn't run much chance of relaying anything useful when one is angry.

He wasn't really in a mental position to even entertain any of my ideas, but...everybody starts somewhere.

I wonder if he got to the next house, got a few sentences into his pitch, then thought, "Wait a minute! She said she reads scripture?!"

Rather, considering his apparent processing skills, he sat bolt upright in bed at 1 o'clock the following morning and said that to himself.

There was more that I forgot when I was typing that up. I asked him why he thought the bible was the right scripture. He looked flummoxed, so I said, "Have you ever read anybody else's scripture? Like the Koran?"

He said, "The Koran? What's that?" (To be fair, I pronounce it ke-RAN, so maybe my pronunciation was confusing him.)

I pointed out he should take a few science classes, and maybe some philosophy when he gets to college. I think we were discussing his apparent lack of training in the fine art of thinking. He said he'd taken science and philosophy.

They teach philosophy in high school? In Alabama? Oh pleeeeease.

At that point, he was just being defensive and gainsaying everything I said. That's all.

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J: You can't spare just five or ten dollars?
d: Are you listening to me? I don't believe in God. Why would I want to give you money?
J: To help me through college.
d: Enlist in the Army.
J: You aren't going to help me at all?
d: I've helped you all I know how. I've given you some good tips. If you're smart, you'll listen to them.
I had some kid come to my door one day selling candybars as a "college scholarship" fundraiser.

He couldn't understand why I wouldn't help him. He didn't realize I make it a point to avoid buying $5 mini-bags of M&Ms clearly marked NOT FOR RESALE out of a paperbag from someone wearing stained clothing that I can smell from 5 ft away.

Now if I could just resist those damned thin mints.
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d (pausing): No. But I'll tell you what. I'll give you a tip. Join the military. They'll pay your way through college.
J: But I want to be near church.
d: They'll let you go to church. You could be a chaplain's assistant. Join the Air Force. Join the Army. They'll pay for your school.
J: They won't pay for the school I want to go to.
d: Which school is that?
J: Oakland Christian College in Huntsville, Alabama.
d: Oakland Christian College?
J: Never heard of it.
d (blankly): No.
J: It's like a normal college but without the bad things. Like smoking and drinking....[/b]
It's "like" a normal college? But it's not normal, right? Hee hee! Sorry, that made me laugh!
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d: There are far more differences than that. Go out on the internet and read a few comparisons.
J: I've looked at all the other colleges. This is the one I want.

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All of them? Really? I'm impressed!
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d: Do yourself a favor. Go to a real college and get a real education.
J: You can't spare just five or ten dollars?
d: Are you listening to me? I don't believe in God. Why would I want to give you money?
J: To help me through college.
d: Enlist in the Army.
J: You aren't going to help me at all?
d: I've helped you all I know how. I've given you some good tips. If you're smart, you'll listen to them.
J: I've taken enough of your time. I'll pray for you.
d (smiling): Yeah yeah. I've heard it all before. Take care.



*sigh*

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Ha ha! Good advice, d! Seriously. The degrees that the enlisted AF folks can earn through the CCAF (CC of the Air Force) which:
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CCAF is accredited by the Commission on Colleges of the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools (1866 Southern Lane, Decatur, Georgia 30033-4097: Telephone number 404-679-4501) to award the associate in applied science degree.
So, there'd be a good chance that his school of choice would accept it.

I enlisted when previous attempts at getting a commission were unsuccessful (long story - never did get the commission). I earned my AAS through the CCAF, although it was easier already having a BS, but others I knew got theirs rather quickly as well! For me, I only needed 4 classes. I actually took the public speaking class, 'cause I knew it was a weak point for me, and I could use the practice, but CLEP'd (tested out of) the other three! Bingo! AAS degree!
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I am so glad people like do not come to my door, or when they do the loud barking and big fangs of our beautiful dobie scares them away!

If I had a headache I don't know I would have as much patience. Kudos to you for a job well done!

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That reminds me. I had two dobie's and a german shepherd. They hated strangers, and you had to see and hear the three of them face to face with a stranger at the gate to believe it. I saw them coming to all the neighbors with bibles in hand on Sunday morning. They had to go through the gate to get to the door. Looking out the window, timing it perfectly as they approached the gate. Then, I opened the door with a thrilling, GO GET 'EM. GETT 'EM GETT 'EM!!!!!

I have a Dalmation that's scared of poodles now. Sure miss the Dobies. Thanks for reminding me. I'd forgotten about that.
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That reminds me. I had two dobie's and a german shepherd. They hated strangers, and you had to see and hear the three of them face to face with a stranger at the gate to believe it. I saw them coming to all the neighbors with bibles in hand on Sunday morning. They had to go through the gate to get to the door. Looking out the window, timing it perfectly as they approached the gate. Then, I opened the door with a thrilling, GO GET 'EM. GETT 'EM GETT 'EM!!!!!
I bet they thought you had let lose the hounds of hell! I do understand the "see it to believe it" notion with a (our) dobie. He is so incredibly affectionate and submissive (most of the time), but when he gets into protection mode he is very, very intimidating. If you have been let into the house (and no longer stand in the doorway) he will come right up to you and want to get to know you. If you haven't ... well ... I hope you can run fast and climb trees well.

Those church ladies haven't been back!

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I saw them coming to all the neighbors with bibles in hand on Sunday morning. They had to go through the gate to get to the door. Looking out the window, timing it perfectly as they approached the gate. Then, I opened the door with a thrilling, GO GET 'EM. GETT 'EM GETT 'EM!!!!!


About ten years ago, my dog was out in the garden when a Jehovah's Witness came to the door. She wasn't a really big dog (collie cross), and she didn't look too fierce, but she did not like people she didn't know in her patch. My mother went out to see what the growling was, and found the poor JW pinned against a tree in the garden, with the dog not letting him move an inch.

The leaflet the guy was holding said, in large letters, 'YOUR LIFE IN HIS HANDS'.

Unfortunately, I don't think he saw the funny side.
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Old 07-29-2003, 07:39 AM   #18
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There are a number of scams that are being worked these days.
Raising money for Christian or Black College.
Babysitter marooned and needs bus money.
Neighbor had to be taken to hospital for broken foot, needs cab money home.
Collecting for abused women
And my favorite, collecting for police athletic fund.

What is happening is they are seeing if you have cash on hand, where you keep it and if you own things worth stealing, if you have a dog etc. You are being set up, be careful
Very good point, I would not take biff's statement lightly. I used to live in an area where people did such things routinely, and the house across the street from me was robbed 3 times in 5 years. We never had much trouble though, as we had 2 dogs and 2 cats.
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Back when I did AC/refrig repair, I used to get out of more work when the customers had large dogs, especially if there was any kind of sign around as a warning.

All I needed to hear was one loud bark from anywhere, and wham-bam-thank-you ma'am, a note went on the gate (if there was one) or the house door-------------saying if you call in again, I may get back to you tomorrow, but you better have your dog/s completely secured. (If I wanted to be nice about it, I would mention the possibility of buying some dry ice.) And then, toodle-loo, off down the road I would go.

Just entered "bad dog" on my service order and never was questioned on my judgement.

If you think this is overreacting, then you have never done service work and had the crap scared out of you by a big unfamiliar dog. (Or seen the scars on some of the techs who learned a little too late some of the lessons you eventually do learn)
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