DarkBronzePlant

Holy cow, now Christians are forbidding their kids to listen to certain religious music? What are these theists coming to?

Buffman

ex-preacher

Was that a response to my post? If so, here is my response to yours.

Even if we assume that all the founders were Christians, that does not mean the US is a "Christian" nation.

I agree concerning the government. However, it is a nation where Christians were, and are, the dominant sectarian religious faith belief group(s).(Fact)

Many (and in some cases, all) of the founders were:

slaveholders (Does that make the US a "Slaveholding Nation" today?)

Nope!

male, white, believers in bleeding as a great cure, believers in horoscopes, wealthy

Nope, though only the elected leaders tended to be the wealthy, educated (for those times), ones.

What is a "Christian nation" anyway?

Beats me! I suspect it would eventually be defined as a nation-state in which the "only" correct/right/true "family. or government, moral values" were found in their Holy Bible, especially the NT, and would lead all Americans into being the true servants(slaves) of their make-believe God(s). (It makes me dizzy attempting to find any manner of accurate definition. Too many biblical contradictions, faulty interpretations and out-right sectarian, self-serving, vested interests for me to even begin to try.)

I also find it odd that I've heard the preachers that claim the US is a Christian nation, also claim that God has turned his back on us because we are no longer a truly Christian nation. So are we or aren't we???

Odd? I view it as just one more contradiction in the never-ending list of contradictions concerning supernatural beliefs/believers? Why not get all those "Christian Nation" preachers separate from one another, have each write down why they believe that, and then bring them all together and read each answer to the assembled group, and see if they all agree on each other's beliefs. Isn't that what Constantine ordered his Christian leaders to do in order to, once and for all, determine which of the so-called sacred texts were divinely inspired? And ostensibly, they were all early Catholics.

Since I did not directly address the issue of a "Christian Nation" in my post, I may simply be beating my gums here and wasting band width. In my post, I was attempting to analyse, from the the Christian perspective, why they argue that the DoI is the basis of the Constitution. I did this in order to help "me" be able to head off their accurate, semantic/semiotic, claims by pointing out that "Cow One is not Cow Two.")


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