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02-22-2002, 09:45 PM

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Originally posted by SLD:
God instituted the correct "policy definition" of the family in Genesis 2, a policy that is best left unadulterated.

"For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall surely be put to death." (Lev 20:9)

Let's hear it for the babble's family values.

abe smith · 02-23-2002, 06:18 AM

eh. Judge Roy Moore of Alabama's asshole stupidity/bigotry freely-exprexssed all- Umerkin opinion is on our side. I don't think he has a majority constituency here in the US of A. OH, sheesh; I liKe to hope he doesn't.

Grizzly · 02-23-2002, 06:59 AM

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Originally posted by fromtheright:


I think that the detriment to the child is that it teaches the child that homosexuality is normal or natural when it is neither.

Well, I think it's a detriment to a child to tell it that it will be tortured for all eternity if it doesn't obey an unseen unknowable being who does not communicate with us. But you don't see me trying to remove children from these homes, nor arguing that these people would make unfit parents.

Why on earth would we start judging parents based on their beliefs instead of their actions? Are you sure you haven't confused homosexuality with pedophilia?

[ February 23, 2002: Message edited by: Grizzly ]

SLD · 03-01-2002, 04:07 PM

Well, this ongoing saga continues unabated in Alabama; even if the rest of the country is moving on. Yesterday, Moore's damage control agent, a lawyer from Wyoming claimed that everybody was taking the judge's statements out of context.

Whatever. In any event, the best letter to the editors appeared yesterday, and I just had to share it with the gang:

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Do we really want biblical law?:

God bless Chief Justice Roy Moore.

Some argue that it is anachronistic to apply an ancient Middle Eastern morality in our courts of law today. I disagree. God's law provides answers to many of our contemporary social ills.

For example, if a man rapes a virgin, his punishment should be to marry her (Deuteronomy). It's simply a matter of family values.

Rebellious sons should be stoned to death (Deuteronomy), and for daughters, perhaps we should just sell them into slavery (Exodus). I have never understood the fuss over slavery. If it's good enough for God, it's good enough for me.

Women are unfit to speak in church, let alone teach our children Sunday School. It's a crime against nature and a crime against nature's God. Menstruating women are unclean and contaminate everything they touch (Leviticus). Allowing women to work outside the home gives them carte blanche to defile Xerox machines all over America.

God punishes the abomination of gluttony through death by plague (Numbers). Fat people have no reason to live. And for the unbelievers, put them and all in their communities to death (Deuteronomy, Exodus, Numbers). A mere monument to the Ten Commandments in Montgomery is not enough. Let us build a pile of stones next to it.

Anne Phillips

Southside

Anne, here's to you babe. <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" />

Now for all those of you who are bashing Alabama: don't paint us all with the same brush. Come on down, I've lived all over the world. It's a great place and the people are not all like Roy Moore.

SLD

critical thinking made ez · 03-01-2002, 07:49 PM

If Moore and the others voted to place the child with the father, it should have been because it was in the best interest of the child, not because a parent was gay, different color, different religion, ugly, smokes, cusses, or spits tobacco.

Moore's ruling revealed he did what was in the best interest of Christian religion, his own religious beliefs, his version of utopian society, his hatred of a certain group of Americans, everything except what was in the best interest of the child.

I think I know why Moore needs the 10 Commandments listed directly in front of him. He has a hard time remembering them all.

He Forgot one of his precious commandments-that the child should Honor his Mother and Father. Moore may need to improve the Bible by inserting the word "Straight" before Mother and Father. God obviously overlooked that point.

fromtheright · 03-01-2002, 10:02 PM

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From SLD:
Now for all those of you who are bashing Alabama: don't paint us all with the same brush. Come on down, I've lived all over the world. It's a great place and the people are not all like Roy Moore.

After all, if we Christian fascists haven't rounded up my friend SLD and tossed him into some atheist "tiger cage", we'll probably the leave the rest of you alone too.
But that may be because SLD, being a slick lawyer, has probably eluded those monthly atheist round-ups.

DRFseven · 03-02-2002, 08:41 AM

On Thursday, I received a "News Release" put out by the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka regarding picketing site information scheduled for Montgomery, Alabama in March. The headlines read:

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WBC to conduct missionary journey Mar. 24-25 to what has become the People's Republic of Alabama where the Common Law of Sodom -- not the Bible, not the Constitution -- is the Law of the Land.

The bulletin continues:

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The following blasphemous, antichrisitic words by Presiding Judge Sharon Yates of the Court of Civil Appeals of Alabama (see D.H. v. H.H., 2001 WL 586966, Ala.Civ.App.) are sufficient to irreversibly damn her, her seed, and a thousand worlds beside, to wit:

"No evidence indicated that the mother's homosexual relationship...would have a detrimental effect on the well-being of the children."

WBC hereby calls for the resignation of Sharon Yates, Presiding Judge of the Court of Civil Appeals of Alabama for conspiring to subvert the State criminal sodomy laws and for encouraging widespread violations of said laws.

...Yates is irreversibly Hell-bound!....WBC will picket Judge Yates in Montgomery, AL, Mar. 15! WBC has a standing to call for the resignation of Sharon Yates -- even as the militant sodomites across America are calling for the resignation of Chief Justice Roy Moore. All judicial opinions are fungible and impact our lives, and the national gay lobby is making this case a major propaganda event like Matt Shepard's death -- whose funeral WBC also picketed in Wyoming, 10/16/98. But more importantly, WBC has a Commission from the Great King to "show my people their transgression" (Isa. 58:1); and "Son of man, cause (America) to know her abominations." Ezek. 16:2. Even so, Amen!

I say, yeah, just keep on doing what you're doing, WBC. Roy Moore needs demented organizations like yourself to help expose him for the idiotic fraud he is.

I plan to be there to add my voice to those calling for the removal of Moore, the "Great King" notwithstanding.

[ March 02, 2002: Message edited by: DRFseven ]

Toto · 03-23-2002, 10:46 AM

<a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020321/ap_on_re_us/alabama_homosexuality_1" target="_blank">Judicial Panel Rejects Bias Complaint against Judge Moore</a>

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A lawyer for the gay rights group, Ruth Harlow, said the commission sent the group a letter saying it does not act against judges for statements made in opinions unless there is evidence of "ill will."

"We don't agree with the explanation," she said.

As a circuit judge in Etowah County, Moore in 1996 cited homosexuality in refusing to award a lesbian custody of her children. An appeals court later ordered him to step aside from the case after the woman complained Moore couldn't be fair because of his religious beliefs.

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02-23-2002, 06:18 AM	#42
abe smith Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: springfield, MA. USA Posts: 2,482	eh. Judge Roy Moore of Alabama's asshole stupidity/bigotry freely-exprexssed all- Umerkin opinion is on our side. I don't think he has a majority constituency here in the US of A. OH, sheesh; I liKe to hope he doesn't.

03-01-2002, 07:49 PM	#45
critical thinking made ez Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: San Antonio TX Posts: 536	If Moore and the others voted to place the child with the father, it should have been because it was in the best interest of the child, not because a parent was gay, different color, different religion, ugly, smokes, cusses, or spits tobacco. Moore's ruling revealed he did what was in the best interest of Christian religion, his own religious beliefs, his version of utopian society, his hatred of a certain group of Americans, everything except what was in the best interest of the child. I think I know why Moore needs the 10 Commandments listed directly in front of him. He has a hard time remembering them all. He Forgot one of his precious commandments-that the child should Honor his Mother and Father. Moore may need to improve the Bible by inserting the word "Straight" before Mother and Father. God obviously overlooked that point.

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