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tgamble · 03-09-2002, 06:26 AM

A creationist has brought up the pitldown man and claimed that because of it the "british museum" (no mention of which one. Britian has more than one doesn't it?

) is not claiming any other fossil is transitional. I suspect strongly that this claim is major league bullshit. Anyone know for sure?

notto · 03-09-2002, 06:36 AM

<a href="http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~lindsay/creation/quote_patterson2.html" target="_blank">http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~lindsay/creation/quote_patterson2.html</a>

My guess would be that he thinks Colin Patterson speaks for the "british museum".

MrDarwin · 03-09-2002, 10:10 AM

Actually, there is a British Museum:
<a href="http://www.thebritishmuseum.ac.uk" target="_blank">The British Museum</a>

[ March 09, 2002: Message edited by: MrDarwin ]

03-09-2002, 01:17 PM

Yes, but I think the one meant is the <a href="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/" target="_blank">Natural History Museum</a>

I suppose it is possible that this was originally a department of the British Museum, which is certainly older.

DireStraits · 03-09-2002, 03:14 PM

no mention of which one. Britian has more than one doesn't it?

DS: Yuck yuck;-) Actually The British Isles are a museum-lover's paradise. You could spend two weeks in London alone and not get through all the museums there, especially if you include things like the Waxworks museum and The Planetarium. Then there are things like The Botanical Gardens at Kew, The Commonwealth Institute, and the various art galleries.

Having said that, there very definitiely is a museum called The British Museum.

Valentine Pontifex · 03-09-2002, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tgamble:
A creationist has brought up the pitldown man and claimed that because of it the "british museum" (no mention of which one. Britian has more than one doesn't it?

) is not claiming any other fossil is transitional. I suspect strongly that this claim is major league bullshit. Anyone know for sure?

tgamble,

Which "british museum?

The British Museum. That is its name.
<a href="http://www.thebritishmuseum.ac.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.thebritishmuseum.ac.uk/</a>

Of course, the creationist is still full of it.

tgamble · 03-09-2002, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tgamble:
A creationist has brought up the pitldown man and claimed that because of it the "british museum" (no mention of which one. Britian has more than one doesn't it?

) is not claiming any other fossil is transitional. I suspect strongly that this claim is major league bullshit. Anyone know for sure?

Looks like their exhibits focus more on artifacts rather than fossils.

liquid · 03-10-2002, 04:22 AM

Oh yes, the Natural History Museum is the place that deals with fossils. The British Museum is basically archeological finds and historical objects. This claim is BS.

Peregrine · 03-10-2002, 07:19 AM

But isn't the British Museum the one the creationists claim will not let anyone study the Archie fossils? I vaguely remember seeing letters posted by creationists claiming to be denied access to Archie. Which of course isn't true, the museum permits scientists (with expertise in the area) access to Archie.

Boro Nut · 03-11-2002, 03:24 AM

Would that be Archie Ologist?

03-09-2002, 06:26 AM	#1
tgamble Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: St. John's, Nfld. Canada Posts: 1,652	piltdown man and the "british museum" A creationist has brought up the pitldown man and claimed that because of it the "british museum" (no mention of which one. Britian has more than one doesn't it? ) is not claiming any other fossil is transitional. I suspect strongly that this claim is major league bullshit. Anyone know for sure?

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MrDarwin Veteran Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 4,140	Actually, there is a British Museum: <a href="http://www.thebritishmuseum.ac.uk" target="_blank">The British Museum</a> [ March 09, 2002: Message edited by: MrDarwin ]</p>

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03-09-2002, 06:36 AM	#2
notto Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Minneapolis, MN US Posts: 133	<a href="http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~lindsay/creation/quote_patterson2.html" target="_blank">http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~lindsay/creation/quote_patterson2.html</a> My guess would be that he thinks Colin Patterson speaks for the "british museum".

03-09-2002, 01:17 PM	#4
DMB Guest Posts: n/a	Yes, but I think the one meant is the <a href="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/" target="_blank">Natural History Museum</a> I suppose it is possible that this was originally a department of the British Museum, which is certainly older.

03-09-2002, 03:14 PM	#5
DireStraits Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 81	no mention of which one. Britian has more than one doesn't it? DS: Yuck yuck;-) Actually The British Isles are a museum-lover's paradise. You could spend two weeks in London alone and not get through all the museums there, especially if you include things like the Waxworks museum and The Planetarium. Then there are things like The Botanical Gardens at Kew, The Commonwealth Institute, and the various art galleries. Having said that, there very definitiely is a museum called The British Museum.

03-10-2002, 04:22 AM	#8
liquid Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: UK Posts: 1,440	Oh yes, the Natural History Museum is the place that deals with fossils. The British Museum is basically archeological finds and historical objects. This claim is BS.

03-10-2002, 07:19 AM	#9
Peregrine Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 385	But isn't the British Museum the one the creationists claim will not let anyone study the Archie fossils? I vaguely remember seeing letters posted by creationists claiming to be denied access to Archie. Which of course isn't true, the museum permits scientists (with expertise in the area) access to Archie.

03-11-2002, 03:24 AM	#10
Boro Nut Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Middlesbrough, England Posts: 3,909	Would that be Archie Ologist?

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