Talulah

Sighswolf,

The woman is a member of the Church of Christ. They call their leaders 'elders' and call each other 'brother' and 'sister.'

I am not either. I fear to pressume as to the actual reason for the problems, but I know if I was married and my spouse started acting all 'wacked out on Christ' our marriage might start to have some problems too, when I started telling them to wake the fuck up.

All members of the Church of Christ can be refered to as saints, as they believe all Christians are saints.


Well you got the indoctrination part right, no doubt about it.

She is asking members of the church to pray for her, to Jesus, so that he will intercede for her.


Same for the Church of Christ, or at least the brand I was raised in.

The church of Christ teaches that they are the only Christians, the only ones who have access to god, and even if she was a more liberal CoC member, her husband is not a believer of ANY stripe so in her eyes, he is the same amount of infidel that we are.

The conservative churches of Christ don't allow instruments or clapping because there is only authorization in the bible to sing in service to express joy. Clapping is usually looked askance upon and even forbidden using various reasons, one being that it is a sign of the world. She apparently went to a church who had left these beliefs, in part, behind.

I happen to know that this woman was raised in the church of Christ and had just profoundly re-dededicated her life to God and the church.

Hope this clears it up.

Personally, I think most of your observations still stand.

Talulah

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diana

sighhswolf,

Having also been raised in the CoC, I concur with Talulah. It's uncanny how very similar the two are.

Thanks for the education. And I think most of your observations stand.

d

Pensee

Hey, I've read those first two posts before. But dangit if I can remember where... <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

Queen of Swords

Originally posted by diana:
<strong>It's uncanny how very similar the two are.</strong>

Regarding the practice of calling fellow Christians "brother" or "sister", I think the Seventh-Day Adventists do this too.

Terracotta

Damn! Thank you, Wolf, for that insight. I was also raised in the conservative version of the Church of Christ. How funny that they are so similar to the LDS, yet in many CoC circles the LDS ranks third in the unwritten heirarchy of "people going to Hell:"

1.) Unbelievers
2.) Catholics
3.) LDS

Or at least it seemed to me by the attitudes displayed toward different groups.

I have to point out, though, to those who may not know that there is a rather large movement slinking through the Churches of Christ, at least in the Bible Belt. Many, many churches (including my parents') are splitting - the hardcore fundies that diana, Talulah, and I grew up with are separating from the more liberal members, and vice versa. It's really kind of pitiable.

Oops, sorry to veer off-topic!

Didn't she (the subject of this thread) say also in other posts how she used to be deeply involved in the occult? She very much believes in demons, angels, and spiritual warfare. I can't help but think that this would irritate her unbelieving husband, as well.

Yikes. I'm so glad I'm not in that mindset anymore. This thread is giving me flashbacks! But it's becoming therapeutic for me.

I still haven't decided if I should post in that thread or not.

Talulah

I posted them at II a few days after she posted them on the board.

I was just struck by the irrational tone of them.

Talulah

Terrecotta,

I have noticed this as well. Contrary to some people's beliefs, I believe that this movement will just create more staunch believers of the conservative manner and tip some over to the other side. Reactionairy tactics is something the CoC is good at. In any event, there has been much preaching about 'change agents' since the early 90's and earlier I am sure. The reactionairies get further and further out there. Imagine, all this from a group who wanted all churches to mesh together and follow only the bible, we have splintering after splintering after splintering of the 'one true church'.

Excuse me while I hurl.

Talulah

Stupid double post

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sighhswolf

"I have to point out, though, to those who may not know that there is a rather large movement slinking through the Churches of Christ, at least in the Bible Belt. Many, many churches (including my parents') are splitting - the hardcore fundies that diana, Talulah, and I grew up with are separating from the more liberal members, and vice versa. It's really kind of pitiable."

Yes Terracotta I have seen the in JW's as well.
It would seem that a new brand of "zealot" is being spawned from the twisted remains of the old ones.
Some of the old doctrine is being questioned by
newer and younger members and labeled immaterial and irrelavent to the straight worship of god.
Wolf