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Magus55 · 04-07-2003, 02:48 PM

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Trust me, they can scripturally support their doctrine. The Pope and the Vatican Council devote their entire lives to determining matters of faith and morality by studying the Bible.

In my above post, show me the scripture that supports the crap the Catholic church puts in their Vatican statements and Catechism. Catholicism is debunked on a daily basis on Rapture Ready, and none of the Catholics can do anything to dismiss it other than say, the Pope said so.

winstonjen · 04-07-2003, 02:52 PM

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You really don't know much about Roman Catholicism do you? It is the most heretical, unbiblical load of crap there is. Ever been to Rapture Ready? The apologetics topics are 90% of the time about Catholics because of how completely unbiblical they are. The Catechism and the Vatican/Pope take precedence over the Bible. 90% of the Doctrine Catholics follow are based on the Catechism, not the Bible, and they not only have no scriptural support - they have scriptural verses that specifically say what they believe in is wrong and blasphemy. The Catholic church is the biggest disgrace to Christianity there is.

Funny. They seem to say the same things about other denominations, including yours. Who do I believe?

Mageth · 04-07-2003, 02:54 PM

Show me scriptural support for: Mary is the Queen of Heaven and Peace, Mary is the mediator between us and God, Mary was assumed into Heaven, Mary can forgive us of our sins, Mary is worshipped, Mary's immaculate conception, Mary's perpetual virginity, the Pope is infallible, the Rosary, Sacraments are required for salvation, Mary is blessed above all women, interfaith, the RCC is the one true church, anyone who isn't Catholic will not be saved. And i could go on. There are pictures of the Pope kissing the Koran! The leader of the Roman Catholic Church kissing the book the says kill Christians and Jews, and Jesus is not God! The Pope supports that there are other ways to Heaven other than Jesus! NONE of it is biblical! Its all heresy and blasphemy. Catholic church is christian my arse. Go to www.rr-bb.com under apologetics and go through the Catholic threads there. Its disgusting.

Don't ask me; go ask an RC apologist somewhere. Or do a little web search on some RC apologetics sites (I've seen a few) for the answers.

As far as "disgusting" and "heresy and blasphemy" goes, many RCs would consider your post disgusting heretical and blasphemous. I have no way to tell which of you is correct. Like I said, take it up with the Catholics.

Catholic church is christian my arse.

I would think that would be for God to decide, not you.

Abacus · 04-07-2003, 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by Magus55
the Pope said so.

Ah yes. The argument from authority. Another one that is commonly used is "The bible says so."

Mageth · 04-07-2003, 02:57 PM

Catholicism is debunked on a daily basis on Rapture Ready

If you're relying on Rapture Ready for your apologetics, I can see why you're so often way off in left field.

Magus55 · 04-07-2003, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by winstonjen
Funny. They seem to say the same things about other denominations, including yours. Who do I believe?

First of all, I'm not in a Christian denomination, I'm a Messianic Jew, second of all - read the Bible and compare it to Catholic Doctrine and the Catechism - nothing about Mary, the Pope, interfaith or the Catholic Church is in there.

Mageth · 04-07-2003, 02:58 PM

Ah yes. The argument from authority. Another one that is commonly used is "The bible says so."

:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy

And, apparently, "Rapture Ready says so."

Magus55 · 04-07-2003, 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by Mageth
Show me scriptural support for: Mary is the Queen of Heaven and Peace, Mary is the mediator between us and God, Mary was assumed into Heaven, Mary can forgive us of our sins, Mary is worshipped, Mary's immaculate conception, Mary's perpetual virginity, the Pope is infallible, the Rosary, Sacraments are required for salvation, Mary is blessed above all women, interfaith, the RCC is the one true church, anyone who isn't Catholic will not be saved. And i could go on. There are pictures of the Pope kissing the Koran! The leader of the Roman Catholic Church kissing the book the says kill Christians and Jews, and Jesus is not God! The Pope supports that there are other ways to Heaven other than Jesus! NONE of it is biblical! Its all heresy and blasphemy. Catholic church is christian my arse. Go to www.rr-bb.com under apologetics and go through the Catholic threads there. Its disgusting.

Don't ask me; go ask an RC apologist somewhere. Or do a little web search on some RC apologetics sites (I've seen a few) for the answers.

As far as "disgusting" and "heresy and blasphemy" goes, many RCs would consider your post disgusting heretical and blasphemous. I have no way to tell which of you is correct. Like I said, take it up with the Catholics.

Catholic church is christian my arse.

I would think that would be for God to decide, not you.

Mageth, the point is - Catholic debates happen daily on Rapture Ready by Former Catholics. Its debunked every time. The articles from the Vatican and Catechism that keep being brought up are completely unbiblical.

Magus55 · 04-07-2003, 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by Mageth
Catholicism is debunked on a daily basis on Rapture Ready

If you're relying on Rapture Ready for your apologetics, I can see why you're so often way off in left field.

Why, because Former Catholics siting unbiblical statements from the Catechism and Vatican have no clue what they are talking about?

Mageth · 04-07-2003, 03:02 PM

First of all, I'm not in a Christian denomination, I'm a Messianic Jew, second of all - read the Bible and compare it to Catholic Doctrine and the Catechism - nothing about Mary, the Pope, interfaith or the Catholic Church is in there.

Again, why are you arguing this with us? Go take it up with the Roman Catholics somewhere.

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04-07-2003, 02:54 PM	#133
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	Show me scriptural support for: Mary is the Queen of Heaven and Peace, Mary is the mediator between us and God, Mary was assumed into Heaven, Mary can forgive us of our sins, Mary is worshipped, Mary's immaculate conception, Mary's perpetual virginity, the Pope is infallible, the Rosary, Sacraments are required for salvation, Mary is blessed above all women, interfaith, the RCC is the one true church, anyone who isn't Catholic will not be saved. And i could go on. There are pictures of the Pope kissing the Koran! The leader of the Roman Catholic Church kissing the book the says kill Christians and Jews, and Jesus is not God! The Pope supports that there are other ways to Heaven other than Jesus! NONE of it is biblical! Its all heresy and blasphemy. Catholic church is christian my arse. Go to www.rr-bb.com under apologetics and go through the Catholic threads there. Its disgusting. Don't ask me; go ask an RC apologist somewhere. Or do a little web search on some RC apologetics sites (I've seen a few) for the answers. As far as "disgusting" and "heresy and blasphemy" goes, many RCs would consider your post disgusting heretical and blasphemous. I have no way to tell which of you is correct. Like I said, take it up with the Catholics. Catholic church is christian my arse. I would think that would be for God to decide, not you.

04-07-2003, 02:57 PM	#135
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	Catholicism is debunked on a daily basis on Rapture Ready If you're relying on Rapture Ready for your apologetics, I can see why you're so often way off in left field.

04-07-2003, 02:58 PM	#137
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	Ah yes. The argument from authority. Another one that is commonly used is "The bible says so." :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy And, apparently, "Rapture Ready says so."

04-07-2003, 03:02 PM	#140
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	First of all, I'm not in a Christian denomination, I'm a Messianic Jew, second of all - read the Bible and compare it to Catholic Doctrine and the Catechism - nothing about Mary, the Pope, interfaith or the Catholic Church is in there. Again, why are you arguing this with us? Go take it up with the Roman Catholics somewhere.

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