Brainboy

I believe that there isn't a God simply because of the fact, that it's proposterose(don't mind the spelling) I have MY own evidence to back this up; God was invented way back in the day in order to control people, the people who wrote the Bible were writing it "for God, in his words" when in all actuality how could such information have been past down. the fact that the Bible is full of insest and other lovely information, leads me to believe someone thought it up as a big joke and people loved it. They believed it becasue they were afraid to die so having something to look forward to put them at ease. The ten commandments were set in order to attempt to keep the peace. The church was and still is the most powerful organization in the world, also all the money the church brings in, where does that go? God? I highly doubt it, anywho I'm a Satanist(not a devil worshiper) who believes in reincarnation and that I'm my own God therefore responsible for my own future. So thats my piece of mind on this here(the only reason I signed up is to argue this fact) Besides it seems to far-fetched if you really look at the Bible anyway.

pug846

You do realize that there are actually a lot of people in the world who don't believe in the biblical God, yet still believe in God?

Brainboy

Yes I realize that yet I still firmly believe that there is no God. That god was invented for control purposes, a look back in history of the power of the church everywhere adds a lot of evidence to my belief. Therefore I believe that a God is for weak-minded people as someone else said in a different post , and I need not any reassurance of my death, nor do i fear my own death for the fact that I shall return in a different form yet wiser and shall not commit the same mistakes I did before.

Zenaphobe

I wonder how the evidence for reincarnation stacks up with that compared to the existence of god(s)?

I am curious as to what evidence you would use to support your belief in reincarnation.

You said, "I need not any reassurance of my death, nor do i fear my own death for the fact that I shall return in a different form yet wiser and shall not commit the same mistakes I did before."

How do you "know" these things? What evidence supports this concept?

I also find it interesting that you believe in the scheme of reincarnation that you will luck out and come back as something "wiser", how do you know this? You could be reborn with brain damage and live with a perpetual IQ of a child.

I look forward to hearing your reply.

eh

Well I'll give you credit for one thing. Reincarnation is the only rational afterlife people ought to believe in, but where is there evidence? Remember, anecdotes have little value when trying to determine the truth.

Brainboy

What supports my beliefs on reincarnation is quite simple if you peer into my mind, since I can remeber I've always had a sixth sense about things be it good or bad. I learned to devlop these skills and most of the time I can almost pin-point what it is that I had this feeling. It almost seems that I've lived before, and I won't lie and say I "remember" past lives yet I do have deja vu's of what I believe to be past lives. Anyways it almost seems like through trial and error I've become a lot wiser about life in general, and I don't know that I wouldn't come back as a someone with a low IQ, yet if I did it would still be a learning experience allowing me to see another side of life, therefore making me wiser.

"I wonder how the evidence for reincarnation stacks up with that compared to the existence of god(s)?"
It doesn't really, the only way it does is my beliefs, I AM GOD thats how I think, it just means I don't answer to a higher power or anything I am what I am, and only I can change that, I don't have to have something to believe in, I'm not like those people who have an empty hole neede to be filled and then they found God. Thats a load of crap, I have an empty feeling in my stomach true, I eat and it goes away

Veil of Fire

"Remember, anecdotes have little value when trying to determine the truth."

But remember, 'you can't take it with you'. What kind of evidence would you be looking for?

Indifference

While I'm not so sure I buy into the reincarnation deal, I am always open to suggestions.

It is refreshing, though, to see someone with personal beliefs who doesn't see the need to force them on others. I think it's great that you have your own beliefs and that you arrived at them (I'm assuming) on your own, rather than through indoctrination. And judging from your two posts, you are wise in that you aren't claiming to know this to be true.

Welcome.

Be careful with your personal beliefs. Don't let them get out of hand. Hold them only while they still seem reasonable. To me, they seem unreasonable, but then, I'm not you. I'm not "in your mind" like you say.

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case

Perhaps we should move this over to the Science and Skepticism forum? You say that you believe in reincarnation, and that you are god, and yet you later say that you don't have to have something to believe in? You said that you were a Satanist, and yet you don't believe in God. Can someone explain that to me? Maybe I'm missing something...

Come to think of it, I'm not really clear on what your argument is.
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Brainboy

A satanist a true satanist isn't a devil worshipper or anything of the sort, they only believ that they are God, in such a manner that there is no other force that controls their life.