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Old 04-04-2003, 07:17 AM   #1
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I just don't really get anything reasonable that such free will can exist. To me, free will is just the illusion of possiblities, once we made decisions and follow such decisions we are "bound" by such decisions. Nobody who intends to do what is good has the will to do evil. Both wills cannot exist at the same time.

Else, are there any christians in here have always the will to do evil? and believe would have it even in heaven?
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Free Will (TM) is a funny thing.

We all feel like we have it. It seems obvious that everyone else has it. But, if you stop to think about it:

All our decisions are based on our desires.

Our desires are derived from our nature.

Our nature has a causal relationship with everything that has happened to us.

We don't control how we are created. We don't control the rest of the world.

At what point in the equation do we really have the opportunity to step back and influence our own desires?

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Free Will (TM) is a funny thing.

We all feel like we have it. It seems obvious that everyone else has it. But, if you stop to think about it:

All our decisions are based on our desires.

Our desires are derived from our nature.

Our nature has a causal relationship with everything that has happened to us.

We don't control how we are created. We don't control the rest of the world.

At what point in the equation do we really have the opportunity to step back and influence our own desires?

Jamie
Indeed, else I would have had chosen to have only one will, and that is to do good.

Is it getting funnier?

Isn't it fun to hear my fellow Christians make their apology?
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At last, 7thangel, a subject we can agree on!
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Old 04-04-2003, 01:38 PM   #5
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I believe that there is no such thing as free will

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Old 04-06-2003, 06:15 AM   #6
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Thanks, Mageth and Amaranth.

I really like theist, specifically Christians, share me their thoughts about this. I am thinking that once they believed this, they would even know better the Bible, and what is really being taught by the gospel.
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