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Totalitarianist · 08-08-2002, 08:13 PM

Hello everyone. I need some Bible quotes. Anything bad, chauvinistic, or absurd that Jesus says in the Bible. It would be most helpful.

ShottleBop · 08-08-2002, 08:21 PM

<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com" target="_blank">www.biblegateway.com</a>

One-eyed Jack · 08-08-2002, 10:57 PM

Bible Gateway is a concordance, which will get you to verses containing specific words or phrases. It's very useful, but for your purpose you might scan down <a href="http://www.uib.no/zoo/brage/bible/1innerr.html" target="_blank">this site</a>. It has a list of contradictions (be careful because some of them are easy for Bible apologists to weasel around) and down quite a ways some other items. Use the Bible Gateway to confirm the quotes, and insist on the King James version of the Bible--various editors have sanitized the text of more "modern" Bibles.

Good luck!

Butters · 08-09-2002, 10:33 AM

In regards to Jacks post. Can anyone point out contradictions that are hard to refute? And are there any good apologist sites, the ones I have found are very basic, I'm sure meant to appease the true believer that has been challenged by a non-believer for the first time. And last, does anyone know where I can find an apologist that addresses Thomas Paines "Age of Reason"? I think it is very interesting that the book is over 200 years old, and I can't find an actual rebuttal to it.

Thanks!

Vorkosigan · 08-09-2002, 03:11 PM

<a href="http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com" target="_blank">http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com</a>

Layman · 08-09-2002, 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by forscher1:
<strong>In regards to Jacks post. Can anyone point out contradictions that are hard to refute? And are there any good apologist sites, the ones I have found are very basic, I'm sure meant to appease the true believer that has been challenged by a non-believer for the first time. And last, does anyone know where I can find an apologist that addresses Thomas Paines "Age of Reason"? I think it is very interesting that the book is over 200 years old, and I can't find an actual rebuttal to it.

Thanks!</strong>

Ummm. Maybe because he was written before modern Bible criticism or the manuscript discoveries of the 20th century no one has bothered to do an "actual rebuttal" to him.

But I did find an article about The Age of Reason, for whatever it is worth. I have not read it.

<a href="http://www.tektonics.org/JPH_CN.html" target="_blank">http://www.tektonics.org/JPH_CN.html</a>

Preacher's Son · 08-10-2002, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by forscher1:
<strong>... does anyone know where I can find an apologist that addresses Thomas Paines "Age of Reason"? I think it is very interesting that the book is over 200 years old, and I can't find an actual rebuttal to it.
Thanks!</strong>

For what its worth I am certain there were rebuttals written to at least the first part contemporary to its writing. Thus Paine's respose to them in Part 2 of The Age of Reason.

"It has happened, that all the answers that I have seen to the former part of 'The Age of Reason' have been written by priests: and these pious men, like their predecessors, contend and wrangle, and understand the Bible; each understands it differently, but each understands it best; and they have agreed in nothing but in telling their readers that Thomas Paine understands it not."

Sorry, I just love that line.

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08-08-2002, 10:57 PM	#3
One-eyed Jack Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Eugene, Oregon Posts: 46	Bible Gateway is a concordance, which will get you to verses containing specific words or phrases. It's very useful, but for your purpose you might scan down <a href="http://www.uib.no/zoo/brage/bible/1innerr.html" target="_blank">this site</a>. It has a list of contradictions (be careful because some of them are easy for Bible apologists to weasel around) and down quite a ways some other items. Use the Bible Gateway to confirm the quotes, and insist on the King James version of the Bible--various editors have sanitized the text of more "modern" Bibles. Good luck!

08-09-2002, 10:33 AM	#4
Butters Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 444	In regards to Jacks post. Can anyone point out contradictions that are hard to refute? And are there any good apologist sites, the ones I have found are very basic, I'm sure meant to appease the true believer that has been challenged by a non-believer for the first time. And last, does anyone know where I can find an apologist that addresses Thomas Paines "Age of Reason"? I think it is very interesting that the book is over 200 years old, and I can't find an actual rebuttal to it. Thanks!

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Vorkosigan Contributor Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Barrayar Posts: 11,866	<a href="http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com" target="_blank">http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com</a>

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