Brahma's atheist

Why are fundies are always evil? It's all hate this, exclude that, ban it -burn it, condemn them, suppress that, oppress them. Surely this is what religion is all about. Fundies are getting to the root of the ideology they are following. 'Ordinary' religio's pick and choose what they observe or temper it. Ordinary religio's are actually under threat from fundies. Look at the Islamic world at the moment, it's an example that stands out but I'm sure you must know others from x-ianity or Hinduism, judaism and others.
The average Joe Deluded says this isn't what our religion is about but it must be, it's fundamentalism.The clue is in the monicker.
There was a programme on a couple of nights ago on BBC4 about music in Afhghanistan. When the Taliban came in they banned music because it was evil, un-Islamic. It promoted immorality. They had this young looking Mullah who said as much. They destroyed any instuments that they found also tapes and players. This has happened in christianity I think, Rock'n'roll was the devils music. Did people also think instruments immoral?
You've got misogyny, homophobia, cultural hatred and divisiveness.
You've got deliberate ignorance. In the programme mentioned above a post taleban musician said the fundies were destroying all history in the country. They were trying to make it a country of ignorant terrorists. They ran video of the huge Buddah statue being blown up.The taleban went to a library and told the head librarian to get all the books of Afghan history and burn them in front of him. Fundy Xians would do the same no doubt, especially to science books, in particular to evolution books. How much literature and art would be destroyed?
Homophobia. In the UK at the moment there's a furore over the appointment of a now celibate homosexual as a bishop, I think. Is it the Cof E? Other clerics are calling for his removal. I think a Nigerian bishop has threatened to resign if he's not removed. Basically gays are going to burn in whatever hell in most religions. What sort of message is that to preach?
Misogyny. Islamic countries are the obvious example. Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia and Iran. But religion is simply patriarchal as society is in general. It's written by men for men because men have the power (in their fists). And most religions are the same in essence.
It's all just ideology like nazism or communism. The bogey man is different.

One Way

I agree with you, religion is useless. Religion can promote hatred, religion is pointless and is man's futile attempt to get to God.

But hear this, I do believe there is a God, one God, the God we will all be accountalbe to. Yes, I do believe the Bible, yes I do believe homosexuality is wrong, but do I hate them? Certainly not, on the contrary I care about them and will love them still. The Bible does not call me to destroy all who will not believe, the Bible does not call me to hate or revolutionize.

Do I believe that all rock music is wrong or neccesarily "evil." No, the Bible does not speak directly about it, so I cannot think it wrong. The Bible sets a standard, indeed the only standard. It talks about the omnipotence of God, and the depravity of man. Yes, it was written by men, but men inspired by the Holy Spririt, ultimatly God. Over three thousnad years it has not been changed or altered. People have tried to get rid of it, burn it, destroy the Christians. Why is it still there? Because God WILL preserve his word.

The Bible does not call me to hate, the Bible calls me to repent, to love and to speak the truth. Without the Bible, indeed without God, there is no standard. Truth will be relative, it will not exsist.

Sincerely

Primordial Groove

lol.

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emotional

Newsflash: Christianity is a religion. It is useless, it promotes hatred, it is pointless and it is man's futile attempt to get to God.

Abel Stable

Perhaps god needs an editor. How are you so certain that the writers were "divinely inspired"?
Are you sure about this?

Biff the unclean

Without the Bible, indeed without God, there is no standard. Truth will be relative, it will not exsist.
Oh, really.
Genesis 17:1
And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

In this same story "perfect Abram" as in the God of Abraham whores out his wife to Pharaoh's court, keeps slaves, rapes a slave, abandons her child, makes his aged wife pregnant, abuses that child, steals kills livestock.
In the book he's considered perfect, in the 21st century he would be a criminal. Everyone from the FBI to the ASPCA would be after him.
So where is this standard you mentioned? No "Good Christian" would dream of doing what Mr Perfect did. Are they being relative?

Or did you even bother to read the bible?

The_Unknown_Banana

Which version/translation?

DMB

This is a bit confusing. You are presumably referring to the xian bible since you claim to be xian. But the whole point of xianity is that it is an add-on to judaism, and the new testament, so we are told, came along less than two thousand years ago. Then there were all those disagreements in the early xian centuries about which books were or were not canonical. I know I'm not a biblical scholar, but your statement appears to me to be a little inaccurate.

Brahma's atheist

"Over three thousnad years it has not been changed or altered."
Wait a mo', didn't King James change a couple of words to get 'Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live'. The guy had a bug up his ass about witches. That contributed some of the most scary shit in western history.
Various religious texts are constantly being changed under the guise of 'Interpretation'. Interpreted to fit in with whatever psychopathy the interpretors want to put out.

conkermaniac

How hypocritical of you! The Bible is anything but clear in its message about homosexuality. You can find millions of sites that refute all the scriptures used by fundies. :banghead:

With that said, the Bible still sucks.

Any credibility that your post may have had was spoiled by that statement. Even many fundies readily admit that the Bible was subject to misinterpretations and bias.