Mageth

Why do you assume God changed his mind after what Abraham said? God already knew Abraham was gonna ask for if there were only 5 righteous people, God just wanted Abraham to actually be the one to say it. Doesn't mean He changed His mind, only that He wanted Abraham to make the decision.

Sounds like a post hoc rationalization to me...

Magus55

Sounds like you would do anything to disprove the Bible and God, no matter what. You have the pressupposition its all wrong, and will never be able understand it, without constant refutes.

Mageth

Sounds like you would do anything to disprove the Bible and God, no matter what. You have the pressupposition its all wrong, and will never be able understand it, without constant refutes.

Geez, Magus, the question seemed to be merely about whether god changed his mind or not. I didn't know that my answer somehow disproved the Bible and God.

And, with your non-answer, my charge that your claim is a post-hoc rationalization still stands.

winstonjen

Magus, how can you worship a god that condones rape - all the rapist has to do is marry his victim, according to the OT. How do you think the poor woman feels?

BTW, congratulations on getting to 666 posts.

Mageth

And Magus, if you haven't already, you need to go to this thread and read my last post to you, which I believe addresses your post here, and which I hope will clear up some misconceptions you seem to have about me based on your frequent accusations.

Magus55

So i guess I'm dumb or delusional for believing something I can't see? And I don't believe just because i grew up with it. Because i was never exposed to Christianity, i found faith on my own.

And you know what, frankly I don't care if you say its all myth and legend, because when He saves your life, and you feel his presence and love, no amount of evidence in the Universe, can ever change your mind.

Yellum Notnef

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Magus55


And you know what, frankly I don't care if you say its all myth and legend, because when He saves your life, and you feel his presence and love, no amount of evidence in the Universe, can ever change your mind. [/QUOTE

Jesus saved your life? How so?

Amaranth

I've got this bookmarked. Be ready to see it again the next time you start talking about "closed minded atheists" and how you've "given us evidence, which [we] ignore".

The pot having just described himself as black aside, I have to wonder why fundies go on and on about god saving lives. It's a given fact that the middle ages was a time that is noted for is theocracies and widely held literalist views on the bible. I have to wonder why infant mortality rates, quality of life, and length of life have all gone up since man started embracing science more, and literal biblical veiws less. If god was so involved in saving lives, shouldn't the inverse be true?

Paperstreet

How are you certain that its God loving you, and not just you wanting something all mighty and powerful loving you. The human mind can be decieving. What I once thought was God loving me, I realized was just wishful thinking.

mike_decock

That doesn't follow. My human personality may change even though I remain human. I can't change my human-ness, but "just", "good" and "loving" are just aspects of my personality.

By the same manner, "just", "good" and "loving" are just personality traits of a God. Just look at the Greek pantheon.

I would say a God can't change his godliness but I think that would defy his supposed omnipotence (there's plenty of myths where gods turned themselves into men, so I guess that it is within the supposed abilities of a god).

-Mike...