tgamble

One of the arguments I've seen with the ark is the following.

Question:
Food preservation/Pest control. Food spoilage is a major concern on long voyages; it was especially thus before the inventions of canning and refrigeration. The large quantities of food aboard would have invited infestations of any of hundreds of stored product pests (especially since all of those pests would have been aboard), and the humidity one would expect aboard the Ark would have provided an ideal environment for molds. How did Noah keep pests from consuming most of the food?

Answer:
"By using DRIED foods in airtight containers, or salted food. If gamble were right, how did Magellan and Drake manage to survive their circumnavigation of the globe?"

After you stop laughing (or crying, whatever ) I was wondering if anyone knew when salted food became a method of preservation. Not to mention airtight containers because I'm sure that tupperware wasn't around back then.

It would be interesting to know how well such techniques work in an enclosed enviroment filled with animals sleeping in their own waste for an entire year. My guess is, not very well at all.

Slavik91

Simple, they stopped for supplies in South America / Oceania (or maybe Asia?) / Africa / Europe.

These people need a history lesson.

sourdough

I'm guessing,,, they knew how to catch fish

Kosmo

I get a kick out of how these people come off as though their answers are so obvious. I imagine airtight containers were a little hard to come by in those days, particularly since it wasn't common knowledge then that airtight containers might have provided any benefit.

Does anyone know if the ark had any trailers? It surely would have needed a lot of storage space to carry enough food to nourish all those dino-babies....

WinAce

Hilarious. Can I have a link to that post? TheologyWeb is recently depressing even myself (not an easy thing to do), so I don't think I'll be reading it much.

Duvenoy

Salting food for preservation has been around for a long time, howsomever, in the days of Noah, salt wasn't all that easy to come by. If I remember my reading, it had to be mined and transported a long distance (at something like 4 mph, with quanities that are nowhere near tonnage) I don't recall if this mining was done at the Dead Sea or eleswhere. In any event, salt was an extremely valuable commodity.

Air tight containers? With the technology of the day? Not a chance except for animal organs such as cured bladders. And even these would be difficult to seal effectivly. They'd have to be glued shut in some way. If some sort of pottery were used, it'd sitll have to be glued. But, the point here is moot. Mostly, all these people wanted to do is keep sand out of the supper, rather than long-term storage. The exception, of course is grains. I'm sure that dried and perhaps even salted foods were used by travelers and seamen, but to claim their use on something like the Ark and the conditions it would have sufered is begging for a lot of credualty.

Which brings up another question: where did Noah find all that victual to start with?

The animals aboard the Ark most certainly did not lay in their own waste! The dung beetles, both of them, kept it all cleaned up, so there!

doov

tgamble

http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/sho...6&pagenumber=3

Slavik91

I hear you. I visited that hell-hole of a web site once, and I'm never going back.

Dr.GH

Air tight was within the available neolithic to early bronze age technology, as pottery making was well known as was the use of wax as a seal. Honey was also used as a preservative. There was for that matter no room for the animals any more than there was room for their food.

The greater point is that, regardless of how one pretends to provision the Ark, there was no global flood.

The earliest account of a flood that is the apparent source for the Genesis flood story is the Sumerian story of Atrahasis, Tablet 2.

Below is an online translation that seems to be transcribed from Myths from Mesopotamia: Creation, The Flood, Gilgamesh and Others by Stephanie Dalley, as well as a couple of other links.

http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/...atrahasis.html
http://home.apu.edu/~geraldwilson/atrahasis.html
http://faculty.gvsu.edu/websterm/Atrahasi.htm


You might point out that Drake and Magellon, as well as any sea explorer of the era, always started with much larger crews than they came home with, and went ashore to reprovision as often as possible. Many shore visits lasted months.

Blinn

Nah, that's not it. Gawd trained all of those animals to take dumps in the special crapper that Noah built for them. Haven't you seen the trailers for Bruce Almighty yet? Sheesh! Some people...