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Old 06-04-2003, 09:51 AM   #11
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Does this kind of rubbish happen when one graduates from a university in the USA?
 
Old 06-04-2003, 10:50 AM   #12
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It is a bit confusing. My American Heritage dictionary from 1976 has two definitions of baccalaureate 1) The degree of Bachelor conferred upon graduates of most U.S. colleges and universities. 2) A farewell address in the form of a sermon delivered to the graduating class in most U.S. colleges and universities and in some high schools.

My 1993 edition of the same dictionary leaves out the part "in the form of a sermon."

In these parts (and apparently in GaryP's area also) it's usually meant to be some sort of religious ceremony involving graduates, though there are a couple high schools in the area that offer the IB program.
Thanks for the clarification. Reading the o.p. I didn't see anything to be upset at either.
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Does this kind of rubbish happen when one graduates from a university in the USA?
Not that I recall from my own graduation. But then again, what I remember from it (back in '92) is walking across stage, that Tom Clancy was the guest speaker, and that my girlfriend (now wife) came up with my family. Beyond that, I couldn't tell you much about it. And I was sober!
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Does this kind of rubbish happen when one graduates from a university in the USA?
Depends on the university. My college had an optional baccalaureate ceremony on the morning of graduation day. I knew they were a Presbyterian school when I applied though so I didn't have any basis to complain. My father seemed to think we would all go to the bacc ceremony but I explained to him that I was not planning to attend because it A) was religious and B) took place at 10 in the morning.
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Old 06-05-2003, 09:11 AM   #14
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GaryP,

I attended high school in the Bible Belt...central Florida. Seems to me many schools in the Belt routinely ignore legal rulings until forced to comply...usually by a parent who has called in the ACLU. Then, they go overboard, trying to make themselves "victims" (what a shock!) by dong stupid stuff like claiming they were "afraid" to allow religious valentines to be distributed by a third grader. (The 1964 ruling/1966 non-compliance doesn't surprise me at all!)

Here where I live now, a couple years ago, the school system had to be slapped down for marking a Jewish child absent (disqualifying her from a particular scholarship, I think) during her religious holidays. Their rationale??? Well....we give them all Christmas off! How, in the 21st century, could you possible think that is OK????

I agree the back-to-back ceremonies are designed to satisfy the letter of the law but to accomplish their purpose in promoting religious attendance. Its a total crock, and just one of many these sleazy people resort to. The entire theory is to force belief through social pressure, or at the least to silence non-belief.

And, I agree with those who stated they don't remember a thing about their graduations/baccalaurates. You will, however, remember you stood up for your non-belief (hanging around outside the door and waiting until services are over, however inconvenient.)
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