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SmashingIdols · 05-01-2002, 09:10 PM

My wife me this couple who were convinced crop circles were true (just for starters).

We went and had dinner with them, and I played along the whole evening thinking it was a great joke; but they were completely serious. You would not believe the stuff these two believed in. I was literally rolling on the floor. Needless to say, we were never invited back. Too bad - I wanted to interview them!

Turns out they got all their information here:

<a href="http://www.artbell.com" target="_blank">Art Bell's Radio Show</a>

Is he serious about this, or just the world's best unknown comedian? Sample below, on the air tonight.

Quote:

Tonight's Show: William Baldwin PhD:

Dr. William Baldwin knows that evil exists. During his practice as a dentist, Dr. Baldwin noticed that, while under anesthetic, some patients exhibited a frightening dark side. Curious and unsettled by what he witnessed, Dr. Baldwin decided to further explore this unusual phenomenon. As a counselor and therapist, he developed a unique cross-cultural approach to confronting the sinister forces that prey upon humankind.

Toto · 05-01-2002, 10:31 PM

SCICOP takes on Levengood here:

<a href="http://www.csicop.org/sb/9606/crop_circle.html" target="_blank">http://www.csicop.org/sb/9606/crop_circle.html</a>

Oolon Colluphid · 05-02-2002, 01:37 AM

For a detailed account of circles in southern England where it mostly all started (Cheesefoot (pron. Chessfoot) Head is just up the road from me here in Winchester), I recommend Jim Schnabel's Round in Circles, where Sagan got much of his material on Doug and Dave etc. Schnabel started as an investigator, and ended up making numerous circles himself. The book gives the lowdown on all the arguments and in-fighting between the groups analysing the circles, from Terence Meaden's meterological/physics explanations to Pat Delgado to the UFO nuts and tree-huggers.

It's a great read. I think it's out of print, so check libraries and <a href="http://www.abebooks.com." target="_blank">www.abebooks.com.</a>

Cheers, Oolon

Pandora · 05-02-2002, 02:54 AM

I read quite an interesting article a few weeks ago (Can't remember where though - sorry), that said that the number of crop circles appearing in Britain has dramatically decreased during the Foot and Mouth disease outbreak when the countryside was closed. So much for flying saucers!

Mike Rosoft · 05-02-2002, 04:33 AM

There are <a href="http://circlemakers.astronomy.cz" target="_blank">Czech circlemakers</a>, as well.

I have always been skeptical about paranormal phenomena. Initially, I believed in the theory that crop circircles are produced by whirlwinds. After finding that site I learned that the first question I should have asked myself was: Is there any evidence that at least some circles are not man-made?

Mike Rosoft

SteveD · 05-02-2002, 04:35 PM

Thanks Toto, that's just the kind of thing I was looking for.

And thank you also Oolon, I will definitely try to look that book up.

Thanks to everyone for your responses.

Steve

KeithHarwood · 05-02-2002, 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by Pandora:
<strong>I read quite an interesting article a few weeks ago (Can't remember where though - sorry), that said that the number of crop circles appearing in Britain has dramatically decreased during the Foot and Mouth disease outbreak when the countryside was closed. So much for flying saucers!</strong>

No No! That's because the Saucerians are good members of the interstellar community. Of course the number of crop circles dropped. They don't want to spread the disease. That proves that they are the ones that made the circles.

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05-01-2002, 10:31 PM	#12
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	SCICOP takes on Levengood here: <a href="http://www.csicop.org/sb/9606/crop_circle.html" target="_blank">http://www.csicop.org/sb/9606/crop_circle.html</a>

05-02-2002, 01:37 AM	#13
Oolon Colluphid Contributor Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Alibi: ego ipse hinc extermino Posts: 12,591	For a detailed account of circles in southern England where it mostly all started (Cheesefoot (pron. Chessfoot) Head is just up the road from me here in Winchester), I recommend Jim Schnabel's Round in Circles, where Sagan got much of his material on Doug and Dave etc. Schnabel started as an investigator, and ended up making numerous circles himself. The book gives the lowdown on all the arguments and in-fighting between the groups analysing the circles, from Terence Meaden's meterological/physics explanations to Pat Delgado to the UFO nuts and tree-huggers. It's a great read. I think it's out of print, so check libraries and <a href="http://www.abebooks.com." target="_blank">www.abebooks.com.</a> Cheers, Oolon

05-02-2002, 02:54 AM	#14
Pandora Regular Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: UK Posts: 367	I read quite an interesting article a few weeks ago (Can't remember where though - sorry), that said that the number of crop circles appearing in Britain has dramatically decreased during the Foot and Mouth disease outbreak when the countryside was closed. So much for flying saucers!

05-02-2002, 04:33 AM	#15
Mike Rosoft Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Posts: 965	There are <a href="http://circlemakers.astronomy.cz" target="_blank">Czech circlemakers</a>, as well. I have always been skeptical about paranormal phenomena. Initially, I believed in the theory that crop circircles are produced by whirlwinds. After finding that site I learned that the first question I should have asked myself was: Is there any evidence that at least some circles are not man-made? Mike Rosoft

05-02-2002, 04:35 PM	#16
SteveD Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: California Posts: 118	Thanks Toto, that's just the kind of thing I was looking for. And thank you also Oolon, I will definitely try to look that book up. Thanks to everyone for your responses. Steve

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