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ishalon · 06-13-2002, 04:18 PM

Why is it that so many Christians say this (usually after being shown proof against christianity...) even though most atheists are born Christians? If any Christians would answer...

Mageth · 06-13-2002, 04:22 PM

All atheists, like everyone else, were born atheists (newborns lack a god belief; at least I did.)

You might say many atheists were born into xian families.

ishalon · 06-13-2002, 04:34 PM

thats what i meant... but lets read the meaning instead of the language

Megatron · 06-13-2002, 05:12 PM

That's easy, it's a euphemism, which means "You need to shut up, believe this bullshit, and stop thinking for yourself".

ishalon · 06-13-2002, 05:15 PM

Of course! <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" />

Edit: We believed that bullshit for a while though so that doesn't work

[ June 13, 2002: Message edited by: ishalon ]</p>

Megatron · 06-13-2002, 05:30 PM

Yup... unfortunately I believed that bullshit once upon a time...

Jobar · 06-13-2002, 07:28 PM

Ishalon and Zero, of course you are right. But let's put this in MRD instead of Eog.

I ate Pascal's Wafer · 06-13-2002, 07:33 PM

I think it's a weak attempt on their part to justify their belief to themselves. They want to believe in all this stuff, so they make excuses to discredit anyone who can back up their disbelief with actual evidence.

I don't think they are saying that for our sake, but for their own.

-Nick
-edited for clarity

[ June 13, 2002: Message edited by: I ate Pascals Wafer ]</p>

Triple Six · 06-13-2002, 09:40 PM

Well I hope they follow up with an explanation of how they know somebody who has been dead for 2000 years.

Emotional Naturalist · 06-13-2002, 11:55 PM

No problemo...

"You need to know Darwin before you understand".

06-13-2002, 04:18 PM	#1
ishalon Regular Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: From: Posts: 203	You need to know Jesus before you understand... Why is it that so many Christians say this (usually after being shown proof against christianity...) even though most atheists are born Christians? If any Christians would answer...

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06-13-2002, 04:22 PM	#2
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	All atheists, like everyone else, were born atheists (newborns lack a god belief; at least I did.) You might say many atheists were born into xian families.

06-13-2002, 04:34 PM	#3
ishalon Regular Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: From: Posts: 203	thats what i meant... but lets read the meaning instead of the language

06-13-2002, 05:12 PM	#4
Megatron Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: New York Posts: 5,441	That's easy, it's a euphemism, which means "You need to shut up, believe this bullshit, and stop thinking for yourself".

06-13-2002, 05:15 PM	#5
ishalon Regular Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: From: Posts: 203	Of course! <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" /> Edit: We believed that bullshit for a while though so that doesn't work [ June 13, 2002: Message edited by: ishalon ]</p>

06-13-2002, 05:30 PM	#6
Megatron Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: New York Posts: 5,441	Yup... unfortunately I believed that bullshit once upon a time...

06-13-2002, 07:28 PM	#7
Jobar Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: secularcafe.org Posts: 9,525	Ishalon and Zero, of course you are right. But let's put this in MRD instead of Eog.

06-13-2002, 07:33 PM	#8
I ate Pascal's Wafer Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 1,460	I think it's a weak attempt on their part to justify their belief to themselves. They want to believe in all this stuff, so they make excuses to discredit anyone who can back up their disbelief with actual evidence. I don't think they are saying that for our sake, but for their own. -Nick -edited for clarity [ June 13, 2002: Message edited by: I ate Pascals Wafer ]</p>

06-13-2002, 09:40 PM	#9
Triple Six Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: formerly Lae, Papua New Guinea Posts: 1,867	Well I hope they follow up with an explanation of how they know somebody who has been dead for 2000 years.

06-13-2002, 11:55 PM	#10
Emotional Naturalist Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: hell's flames Posts: 26	No problemo... "You need to know Darwin before you understand".

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