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Old 01-03-2002, 12:23 PM   #11
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Did you catch <a href="http://women.crosswalk.com/partner/Article_Display_Page/0,,PTID73970|CHID467200|CIID1112990,00.html" target="_blank">Help! I Like a Non-Christian Guy - Part 2</a>? The theme is "So we know it's wrong [to like a non-Xian], but how do we stop and control these feelings?"

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Remember, you are choosing to like him. That means you can choose NOT to like him. (No, you cannot help your initial feelings of attraction to him, but after you noticed him, that’s where you made a choice. You chose to start liking him at that point. Noticing that he was attractive and nice was not wrong, but thinking about it and wanting him and spending lots of time daydreaming about him is wrong.)
That's right, it is just WRONG to have a healthy fantasy! Control those thoughts! No lust may enter!!

In fact you should:

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Stop thinking about him. The Bible says we are supposed to take our thoughts captive for the sake of Christ. (2 Corinthians 10:5) That means we’re supposed to hold our thoughts hostage, make them our prisoners. If someone is your prisoner, you have complete control of them. So God is saying that we need to take complete control of our thoughts. And God wouldn’t tell us to do this if it were impossible to do. Every time you start thinking about wanting this guy, pray instead that God would help you overcome your thoughts and feelings. This will take hard work and self-control, but it is God’s will for you to take your thoughts captive.
Lobotomize yourself for Christ! Become comfortably numb int he name of JESUS!

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I hope you get started on these things right away, because I would hate for you to make the mistake that so many of my friends have made. They meet a nice non-Christian guy, he tells them he respects their faith, then they end up pregnant or with a sexually transmitted disease.
Because it's the non-Christians who are against sex education and providing CONDOMS IN SCHOOL, right???!

I am so disgusted that these people pretend to give fair and balanced advice while spreading these lies about non-Christians. It's not as though this is a complete shock, but for crying out loud.

Edited to add: I live in Japan. Less than 1% of the population is Christian. There's also an extremely low STD rate, though I don't have the numbers handy. what do they think of that, huh?!

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Old 01-03-2002, 12:41 PM   #12
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Here's a hilarious bit from <a href="http://women.crosswalk.com/partner/Article_Display_Page/0,,PTID73970|CHID467200|CIID689190,00.html" target="_blank">Purity : Some Success Stories.</a>

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Guys will do and say anything you want them to just so they can get you into bed. Thankfully, I had the strength to say "no" when he asked. However, I now regret letting him kiss me. Let these young women not be in such a hurry to grow up and be kissed.
This should have a title like "Kiss of Death" or "Lips of the Devil" Horrible, evil kisses!
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Quoted from Purity: Some Success Stories: "Guys will do and say anything you want them to just so they can get you into bed."

Well, no shit! These flowers of Jesus don't actually think the guys are after them for their minds, do they?

Give me a nice, sensible atheist girl any day.
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Yes, I've had experience in this area. I know just how hard it is to resist sexual temptation, and I've made plenty of mistakes.
In other words, "I've had MY fun, but now I'm going to stop you from having yours."
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I think it is an ideal example of how religion tells what you can and cannot do.
What is so bad about a religion telling you what you can and cannot do? Sure, we're atheists and we don't believe in God. But, assuming just for a moment that anybody did believe in God, would a God that had absolute no opinion about what you did or did not do be a pretty lame God? (The deistic God isn't much different from being atheistic in any case). Any God who one need bother worshipping is of course going to expect something, and people go to church precisely so that they can be told what they should do.

Now, this may be bad advice. This may be advice not backed up by their own religious beliefs. It may conveniently coincide with self-perpetuation of the religion . . . but hell, even I have counseled caution to heathens considering dating someone "on fire with God" because from both perspectives it may be more trouble than it is worth.
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Personally, I don't thing an atheist should date a Christian or visa-versa. Nothing is really bad about it unless a relationship starts to build, then you can have some serious problems. People need to stick with their own kind in reference to Religious and Non-Religious beliefs.

This is not the same as with interracial couples. They don't come to a point when they want to change the other person's color. But in terms of hell and brimstone, they will. It may not be now, but it could later as their "Faith" grows. That is the unstable part of a Christian. They can really go off the deep end with the right cult teachings.

Plus, if you're a female atheist with a religious husband. He goes to church and you stay home... well you can bet your life he is scoring with the honey's at church. Church is one of the biggest sex-exchange places there is... next to bars.

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Is it really? LOL...now that's what I call being "on fire with God."


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<strong>People need to stick with their own kind in reference to Religious and Non-Religious beliefs.

This is not the same as with interracial couples.</strong>
Why not? What other differences, in your personal opinion, would disqualify people from dating or marrying each other? Should handicapped or developmenatlly disabled people stick together? Should people who are more than six inches different in height stay away from each other? How about people with different income and education levels?

Sorry, friend, but there's a whole world of loving relationships out there (including mine and my dear loving Catholic wife's BTW) that put the lie to your idea that atheists and believers "need to stick with their own kind." If you want to limit yourself in those kinds of ways, be my guest. Just don't expect happiness or fulfillment in your relationships any time soon would be my advice to you.

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Plus, if you're a female atheist with a religious husband. He goes to church and you stay home... well you can bet your life he is scoring with the honey's at church.
And if you're going to worry about what your spouse is doing every minute they're out of sight then become a hermit or a nun would be my other advice to you. My wife goes places, including to Mass, without me and I go places without her without either of us having to worry that we're likely to start fucking around with every other person we meet.
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That site is really enlightening. That is truly sound advice.

"For these reasons, I think it is also wise to not constantly surround yourself with unsaved friends. It's hard enough during your teen years to withstand temptation. And it's even harder if all your friends are living by a different standard than you are. You should try to form close relationships with Christian friends who will encourage you to do the right thing. If you are having particular problems with temptation, spend more time with the Christian friends."

Only through social isolation and daily affirmation of your beliefs by like minded people can you become a truly well rounded knowledgible adult.
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Sorry, friend, but there's a whole world of loving relationships out there (including mine and my dear loving Catholic wife's BTW) that put the lie to your idea that atheists and believers "need to stick with their own kind."
Catholics aren't real Christians, they are really just atheists who go to church. So your wife and you should have a great relationship. I'm afraid you might be protesting a little too much on that silly remark I made on "cheating". It was a joke!

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