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Starboy · 05-07-2003, 08:26 PM

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He created him with the capacity for it. Satan recreated him with the inclination, and he passed it on to us.

So god knew what would happen by including such an inclination into Adam's genetic makeup?

Starboy

yguy · 05-07-2003, 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by Starboy
So god knew what would happen by including such an inclination into Adam's genetic makeup?

Starboy

Did you read my post? If so, why have you substituted inclination for capacity?

Starboy · 05-07-2003, 08:40 PM

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Originally posted by yguy
Did you read my post? If so, why have you substituted inclination for capacity?

Is there a difference between inclination and capacity? Which post do you mean? You've made quite a few.

Starboy

yguy · 05-07-2003, 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by Starboy
Is there a difference between inclination and capacity?

Sure. Inclination implies a leaning in some direction. Capacity does not.

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Which post do you mean? You've made quite a few.

I had in mind the one you posted a response to at 8:26 pm Pacific time this evening.

Starboy · 05-07-2003, 09:18 PM

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Originally posted by yguy
Sure. Inclination implies a leaning in some direction. Capacity does not.

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Websters shows inclination to be:
Main Entry: in�cli�na�tion
Pronunciation: "in-kl&-'nA-sh&n, "i[ng]-
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
1 a obsolete : natural disposition : CHARACTER b : a particular disposition of mind or character : PROPENSITY; especially : LIKING <had little inclination for housekeeping>
2 : an act or the action of bending or inclining : as a : BOW, NOD b : a tilting of something
3 a : a deviation from the true vertical or horizontal : SLANT; also : the degree of such deviation b : an inclined surface : SLOPE c (1) : the angle determined by two lines or planes (2) : the angle made by a line with the x-axis measured counterclockwise from the positive direction of that axis
4 : a tendency to a particular aspect, state, character, or action <the clutch has an inclination to slip>
- in�cli�na�tion�al /-shn&l, -sh&-n&l/ adjective

So when you use the word in this particular context do you mean it as is described in 1a, 1b or as 4. In any of those cases such inclinations appear to be part of the character of a person. Since Adam didn�t make himself the creator had to have placed such inclinations into Adam. If this isn�t so then exactly what are you trying to say?

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I had in mind the one you posted a response to at 8:26 pm Pacific time this evening.

Is this the post?

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This is a fine example of Christian science and logic. So if an addiction can be passed on in the womb from mother to child, the sins of a man can be passed on in the womb from father to child?

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Not necessarily the sins, but the inclination to sin.

When Adam was caught by God with his hand in the cookie jar, so to speak, he tried to blame Eve (and God by extension) for his misdeed - IOW, he made an excuse.

How many of you have never made an excuse for a mistake you made?

You make is sound as if god had no idea that Adam would commit the original sin? That Adam would not eventually make a big mistake that would cause him and all his offspring to have to pay for it with lives of misery indefinitely. As if god didn�t know that Adam would make excuses? Are you saying god didn�t know any of this? Also you never answered my question regarding how sin is transmitted from father to offspring via the womb. Where exactly in the body is sin located?

Starboy

yguy · 05-07-2003, 09:52 PM

Starboy, I find myself unable to communicate with you on even the most mudane level, so just forget it.

Calzaer · 05-07-2003, 10:04 PM

See? If you don't even know what you're saying, how can you expect to communicate with anyone else?

Dark Jedi · 05-07-2003, 10:18 PM

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Dark Jedi, great argument. Mind if I used it elsewhere?

Feel free. Break open closed minds wherever you go.

yguy · 05-07-2003, 10:30 PM

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Originally posted by Calzaer
See? If you don't even know what you're saying, how can you expect to communicate with anyone else?

Don't waste your time trying to bait me, kid. It can't be done.

Calzaer · 05-07-2003, 11:12 PM

You shouldn't challenge me like that, old man. I'm a master baiter!

...wait...

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yguy Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,199	Starboy, I find myself unable to communicate with you on even the most mudane level, so just forget it.

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Calzaer Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,762	See? If you don't even know what you're saying, how can you expect to communicate with anyone else?

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