Toto

Richard Carrier has an essay in the Nov. issue of Freethought Today (published by the <a href="http://www.ffrf.org" target="_blank">Freedom From Religion Foundation</a>) titled "Was Catholic Hitler 'Anti-Christian'? On the Trail of Bogus Quotes". Carrier makes a convincing case that the anti-Christian quotes attributed to Hitler from Hitler's Table Talk are mistranslations, or outright forgeries which can be traced to the pen of one François Genoud.

(Genoud was a pro-Nazi Swiss banker, who had tried to hoax David Irving with a forged version of Hitler's Last Testament in the 1970's. He admitted the hoax, but claimed that it was just what Hitler would have said. He committed suicide in 1996.)

Hitler according to his own words believed in God, believed in Jesus (except that he believed Jesus was an Aryan, fathered by a soldier in the Roman Legion, and that his resurrection was spiritual and not physical), believed that Paul had corrupted Jesus' teachings, and believed in the soul and in divine providence. He rejected some of the Catholic doctrine that he was raised with, but his views were not incompatible with those of many Protestants.

Amos

Hitler was very much a reformer who, just like Luther, saw the light when he was reading the bible and began to squack like a chicken that had just laid an egg. What he should have done is stay put and hatch that egg so it may become the new man in the image of Christ.

Was it not Luther who complained thet the Catholic Church removed the eggs from hathing boxes? Well here you go, and both of them made the same mistake and so killed the child that was born unto them. So instead of refoming their own life they tried to reform the world around them.

Vorkosigan

Richard Carrier has an essay in the Nov. issue of Freethought Today (published by the <a href="http://www.ffrf.org" target="_blank">Freedom From Religion Foundation</a>) titled "Was Catholic Hitler 'Anti-Christian'? On the Trail of Bogus Quotes". Carrier makes a convincing case that the anti-Christian quotes attributed to Hitler from Hitler's Table Talk are mistranslations, or outright forgeries which can be traced to the pen of one François Genoud.

Really? I always thought they were inserted there by Bormann.....can't wait to see Carrier's data

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