christ-on-a-stick

...in her new book (this is from an MSNBC article):

“You think you deserve a happy life and get angry when it doesn’t always happen like that,” she wrote in “Let’s Roll!,” her just-published memoir (first printing: 1 million copies). “In fact, you are a sinner and deserve only death. The fact that God has offered you hope of eternal life is amazing! You should be overwhelmed with joy and gratitude.”



How the fuck is her thinking ANY DIFFERENT from the hijackers??? They believe that we are all sinners and deserve only death, and that Allah has offered the hope of eternal life, but if you don't believe in or accept Allah then you are deserving of death... people wonder how "they could kill all those innocent people" - but THAT IS WHY, because they don't see them as innocent people, their beliefs are sick enough that they believed all those people in the WTC DESERVED TO DIE.

I wonder if she could look into the eyes of families of some of the other passengers on her husband's doomed flight (93), who WEREN'T Christians - be they Jews, Buddhists, atheists or whatever - and tell them that while her beloved Todd is in heaven because he believed in Gawd and Jebus, THEIR loved one DESERVED TO DIE (and suffer eternally to boot!)

AUGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GeoTheo

Is this not just a rant?
You can't possibly be in search of rational dialogue can you?

Toto

What do you mean "just" a rant? Is there anything you can say in favor of that sort of disturbed thinking?

RJS

She is not playing God....they were......

Autonemesis

That's funny, I often think that of your posts.

GeoTheo

Examples please.

RJS

In addition to my prior comment distinguishing the difference between understanding that God owes us nothing due to our sin, and actually killing people (i.e. playing God), I add the following....

1) Your sympathy for this widow on the anniversary of her husband's death is uplifting (sarcasm intended), especially noting that his heroism (along with others)likely saved many more lives.

2) Although I have not read the book, the quotes you reference appear somewhat out of context. She is not preaching to you, she is speaking generally about her beliefs and why she is coping so well with this tragegy. It is as if she is speaking to herself (if I had to guess).

3) Her ability to deal with this tragedy, which included having the child that her deceased husband is the father of, has been an inspiration to the nation (with the exception of you).

Why dont you just go bash her in person instead of here. When President Bush speaks of faceless cowards, I now have someone else to add to the list.

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RJS

AS EXPECTED - "Beamer was writing about herself"

Beamer was braced for tragedy by her youth. Her father’s death when she was 15 put an end to what she calls a “Norman Rockwell childhood” in upstate New York. She “seethed” until a church counselor at college sat her down and told her—more or less—to get over it and accept that God had allowed her father to die for a reason. She can sound stern and even a little grim about accepting God’s will. “You think you deserve a happy life and get angry when it doesn’t always happen like that,” she wrote in “Let’s Roll!,” her just-published memoir (first printing: 1 million copies). “In fact, you are a sinner and deserve only death. The fact that God has offered you hope of eternal life is amazing! You should be overwhelmed with joy and gratitude.” Beamer was writing about herself learning to accept her father’s death as an 18-year-old. That experience, she says, has helped her understand that Todd’s untimely death has a purpose known to God, if not yet to her.

Autonemesis

The one I quoted specifically, was the one I was referring to. Am I not entitled to employ a little poetic license? Must I always play to the cheap seats?

Family Man

And that makes a difference how? Whoever Mrs. Beamer was addressing, it is still an example of the disgusting nature of Christian thought, which is what the original post was pointing out. I for one have compassion for Mrs. Beamer's situation; I have none for her religious beliefs. You may not agree with me, as is your right, but you have no right to make unreasonable inferences or introduce gratitious arguments that don't come close to addressing the point.