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Not Prince Hamlet · 04-20-2002, 06:11 PM

According to Booty,
eating the fruit-y,
is what's caused our current ills.

But he's given no proof,
Remained vague and aloof,
I think he's forgotten to take his pills.

Booty · 04-20-2002, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juiblex:


youre the one who's supposed to save us, its not our job to prove non-existence.

would you like us also to disprove the existence of the flying pink kittens from Jupiter?

I am sorry, but I am not the one who is supposed to save you.

And you could disprove your flying pink kittens easier than I could prove them if we apply the "reason" some seem so fond of. I believe Jupiter is to all appearances a lifeless planet, so kittens are out of the question. Flying in the atmosphere of Jupiter with the gravity of Jupiter would appear to be implausible as well. Colors, Hmm that will take some thought. Are colors the result of reflected light refracting in the atmosphere? Do not think so, I believe the boys in space do see colors outside their craft. So pink would appear possible.

ju'iblex · 04-20-2002, 06:11 PM

very good NPH, even with poetic license

bonduca · 04-20-2002, 06:11 PM

Go pray Booty, we're writing a poem here.

edited to add, good job, NPH and jubilex!

[ April 20, 2002: Message edited by: bonduca ]

Not Prince Hamlet · 04-20-2002, 06:14 PM

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I believe Jupiter is to all appearances a lifeless planet, so kittens are out of the question.

Could God create a kitten that could live on Jupiter if He, in His infinite wisdom, wanted to do so? Therefore, doesn't that mean that there could very well be kittens on Jupiter?

Unless of course, you're not sure God exists ...

Jeff

Seeker196 · 04-20-2002, 06:15 PM

The answer is that, of course, it isn't love.

It is a modern liberal Christianity trying to fit an ancient myth about where suffering came from into their lives.

Why would there be an endless circle unless you were being willfully blind?

Snakes don't talk. They can't. The human species evolved over a long, gradual process. They did not suddenly poof! appear in the geological record. Unless you are saying God altered the geological record to trick us...

bonduca · 04-20-2002, 06:16 PM

That sounds like something George would do.

ju'iblex · 04-20-2002, 06:16 PM

Quote:

And you could disprove your flying pink kittens easier than I could prove them if we apply the "reason" some seem so fond of. I believe Jupiter is to all appearances a lifeless planet, so kittens are out of the question. Flying in the atmosphere of Jupiter with the gravity of Jupiter would appear to be implausible as well. Colors, Hmm that will take some thought. Are colors the result of reflected light refracting in the atmosphere? Do not think so, I believe the boys in space do see colors outside their craft. So pink would appear possible.

First youre telling me colours dont exist in space. WTF?

but it IS possible flying pink kittens from Jupiter exist, using your "religious reasoning". do you deny this?

ju'iblex · 04-20-2002, 06:19 PM

ugh. im going to have some lunch before i lose my appetite any further. Perhaps i will return tomorrow Booty.

Booty · 04-20-2002, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly:
Booty,

Whether Adam and Eve actually existed or simply served as a moral story is irrelevant. The question remains. Your "All-Loving" God created a place of unimaginable torture for those who disobey him. He also created us as fallible beings. We are incapable of meeting God's standards - for if we could, we would be perfect. So we all get sent to Hell for being what we are.

So we say again, is this the Love that you want us to have? How is this LOVE?

Well there are those that can enter into discussion without flames, thank you and God bless, (Take it as a form of greeting in my culture).

First you are not "sent to Hell". You choose it, for a choice is offered. The choice that is offered takes into account your fallibility and makes provisions for it.

Whether God created a place of torture solely to punish or as I said earlier, Good simply cannot exist without Bad, is irrelevant as well. I do not presume to answer for God and I accept that there are some mysteries that will remain mysteries.

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04-20-2002, 06:11 PM	#161
Not Prince Hamlet Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 1,309	According to Booty, eating the fruit-y, is what's caused our current ills. But he's given no proof, Remained vague and aloof, I think he's forgotten to take his pills.

04-20-2002, 06:11 PM	#163
ju'iblex Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sydney Australia and beyond the realms of Gehenna Posts: 6,035	very good NPH, even with poetic license

04-20-2002, 06:15 PM	#166
Seeker196 Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 278	The answer is that, of course, it isn't love. It is a modern liberal Christianity trying to fit an ancient myth about where suffering came from into their lives. Why would there be an endless circle unless you were being willfully blind? Snakes don't talk. They can't. The human species evolved over a long, gradual process. They did not suddenly poof! appear in the geological record. Unless you are saying God altered the geological record to trick us...

04-20-2002, 06:16 PM	#167
bonduca Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: . Posts: 1,653	That sounds like something George would do.

04-20-2002, 06:19 PM	#169
ju'iblex Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sydney Australia and beyond the realms of Gehenna Posts: 6,035	ugh. im going to have some lunch before i lose my appetite any further. Perhaps i will return tomorrow Booty.

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