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hezekiah jones · 06-02-2002, 07:40 PM

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There are hardly any or very few vestigial organs in human body. This suggests intelligent design (ID).
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It is claimed by the Human Genome Project that 90-95% of human genome is redundant. If that be true, then in that line of thinking, one would expect numerous vestigial organs, filling the major portion of abdomen, chest and skulls of humans.

<a href="http://www.iscid.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=000098" target="_blank">Lack of vestigial organs suggests design</a>

I have no idea why one would expect such a thing but I think this guy deserves Dembski's monthly $100 dollar prize. Maybe the human skull is full of vestigial organs, at least for some people.

Silent Dave · 06-02-2002, 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by hezekiahjones:
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<a href="http://www.iscid.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=000098" target="_blank">Lack of vestigial organs suggests design</a>

I have no idea why one would expect such a thing but I think this guy deserves Dembski's monthly $100 dollar prize. Maybe the human skull is full of vestigial organs, at least for some people.</strong>

A monthly $100 prize for best post? Wow.

alt.atheism has the Quote Of The Month contest, which I used to administer until RL took over my soul, but you don't win anything for that except bragging rights. Dembski, on the other hand, actually has to BRIBE people to come up with coherent, rational-sounding material.

Dave

lpetrich · 06-02-2002, 09:58 PM

That's almost too silly to be worth commenting on. Much of "junk DNA" is short repeated sequences, pseudogenes, and the remains of copied-in viruses ("Human Endogenous Retroviruses") -- which would not be involved in the formation of any body structures.

Even so, there is an abundance of evidence for vestigial organs, which include organs whose functions are different from what their structures would suggest.

Daydreamer · 06-03-2002, 01:20 AM

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<strong>...which include organs whose functions are different from what their structures would suggest.</strong>

This is the key that I think most creationists miss here - you can't keep unused organs for long (evolutionarily speaking) because its inefficient, and you can't get rid of it immediately because thats highly improbable. The solution: adapt it to a new purpose, much like our appendix and (possibly) our spleen.

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06-02-2002, 09:58 PM	#3
lpetrich Contributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lebanon, OR, USA Posts: 16,829	That's almost too silly to be worth commenting on. Much of "junk DNA" is short repeated sequences, pseudogenes, and the remains of copied-in viruses ("Human Endogenous Retroviruses") -- which would not be involved in the formation of any body structures. Even so, there is an abundance of evidence for vestigial organs, which include organs whose functions are different from what their structures would suggest.

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