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Kevin · 01-18-2002, 12:05 PM

There's a new article in the recent issue of Evolution rebutting the creationist claims and bringing awareness of their tactics to mainstream biologists (who, IMO, have mainly been careless in addressing the creationists, with a few exceptions).

This is the article:

Antolin M., Herbers J. (2001) <a href="http://evol.allenpress.com/evolonline/?request=get-document&issn=0014-3820&volume=055&issue=12&page=2379" target="_blank">"Perspective: evolution's struggle for existence in America's public schools"</a>, Evolution, 55(12):2379–2388

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Quetzal · 01-18-2002, 12:15 PM

Thanks for the link Kevin.

CodeMason · 01-18-2002, 12:28 PM

Great! And it looks like there's another online journal I can add to my list.

pug846 · 01-18-2002, 12:46 PM

Wow - that was really well written. Thanks for the link!

Kaina · 01-18-2002, 12:54 PM

That is a really nice article, thank you for linking it. I especially like their "scientist-eye" view of the theology of ID:

Quote:

The most withering criticism of ID theory comes not from scientists, but from philosophers and theologians (Scott 1997 ; Pennock 1999 ; Haught 2000 ; Smith 2000 ; Oakes 2001a,b ). We have modest abilities in these areas, thus we give here only a scientist's-eye summary of the arguments. First, the theology of ID theory looks for directed order in nature, but natural theologians risk losing faith when nature shows its disappointing knack for randomness, capriciousness, and unpleasantness. Second, ID is �God in the gaps� theology, using divine explanations for what is not yet understood; this theological position runs the risk of describing a God whose divine power diminishes with every new scientific discovery. Together, these make ID an uncomfortable theology. Perhaps John Henry Newman viewed the problem through the correct end of the microscope when he wrote in 1852 �I believe in design because I believe in God, not in a God because I see design� (quoted in Oakes 2001a , p. 52).

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Kevin Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: ... Posts: 1,245	_Evolution_ addresses creationism There's a new article in the recent issue of Evolution rebutting the creationist claims and bringing awareness of their tactics to mainstream biologists (who, IMO, have mainly been careless in addressing the creationists, with a few exceptions). This is the article: Antolin M., Herbers J. (2001) <a href="http://evol.allenpress.com/evolonline/?request=get-document&issn=0014-3820&volume=055&issue=12&page=2379" target="_blank">"Perspective: evolution's struggle for existence in America's public schools"</a>, Evolution, 55(12):2379–2388 [ January 18, 2002: Message edited by: Kevin ]</p>

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Quetzal Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ecuador Posts: 738	Thanks for the link Kevin.

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CodeMason Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 226	Great! And it looks like there's another online journal I can add to my list.

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pug846 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,587	Wow - that was really well written. Thanks for the link!

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