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Vanderzyden · 10-10-2002, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mageth:<strong>
Discuss, or shut up.
</strong>

That's correct, you would actually prefer that I go away. This is the tone of every single one of your replies to me. Yes, in fact, "shut up" is the primary characteristic of most of your posts.

Vanderzyden

Vanderzyden · 10-10-2002, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mageth:
<strong>On topic, I think modern xians might claim that he was addressing the rest of himself, the other two members of the trinity. As the writer of Genesis apparently had no trinity in their theological arsenal, I don't think this holds much water.</strong>

Your first statement is correct. The second is, again, typical of your highly-skeptical, dismissive posture.

Vanderzyden

Peter Kirby · 10-10-2002, 04:05 PM

Kind Bud writes: Forgive me If I am wrong, Toto, but I assumed that BC&A was set up so Bible-believers can answer challenges like mine.

Although I am not familiar with the particulars of BC&A's founding, I believe that it exists in order to allow discussion of many aspects of the Bible, ancient Judaism, and early Christianity. While this could include "challenges" that are answered by "Bible-believers," it is certainly not limited to that, nor is that the main thrust of the group. I would indeed prefer myself if there were less rancor and if people didn't always polarize between "skeptics" and "Bible believers" (or "apologists").

best,
Peter Kirby

Mageth · 10-10-2002, 04:09 PM

Van, you're way out in left field here. Either discuss the topic or go away. Regardless of what you say, I don't care which. If you're prepared to actually address Kind Bud's post and discuss the topic like a reasonable person, please stay and do so. If you're only going to post ad homs in lieu of arguments, then go away.

And both of your ad hom attacks on me (and on Kind Bud) are so blatantly false (and ironic, to boot, coming from you) that they're laughable and not worthy of a response.

Autonemesis · 10-10-2002, 04:27 PM

I withdraw the question or challenge. It seems now obviously out of character for what is usually discussed here by the regulars, and I apologize for mistakenly thinking otherwise.

Mods, please close this thread. Thank you.

Peter Kirby · 10-10-2002, 05:17 PM

Kind Bud, I don't think that it was a bad or inappropriate question to ask here, but unfortunately it got derailed early into the realm of polemics. I would have wished for some intelligent discussion on the topic. I will respect your request to close the thread.

best,
Peter Kirby

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10-10-2002, 04:05 PM	#13
Peter Kirby Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: the reliquary of Ockham's razor Posts: 4,035	Kind Bud writes: Forgive me If I am wrong, Toto, but I assumed that BC&A was set up so Bible-believers can answer challenges like mine. Although I am not familiar with the particulars of BC&A's founding, I believe that it exists in order to allow discussion of many aspects of the Bible, ancient Judaism, and early Christianity. While this could include "challenges" that are answered by "Bible-believers," it is certainly not limited to that, nor is that the main thrust of the group. I would indeed prefer myself if there were less rancor and if people didn't always polarize between "skeptics" and "Bible believers" (or "apologists"). best, Peter Kirby

10-10-2002, 04:09 PM	#14
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	Van, you're way out in left field here. Either discuss the topic or go away. Regardless of what you say, I don't care which. If you're prepared to actually address Kind Bud's post and discuss the topic like a reasonable person, please stay and do so. If you're only going to post ad homs in lieu of arguments, then go away. And both of your ad hom attacks on me (and on Kind Bud) are so blatantly false (and ironic, to boot, coming from you) that they're laughable and not worthy of a response.

10-10-2002, 04:27 PM	#15
Autonemesis Contributor Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I've left FRDB for good, due to new WI&P policy Posts: 12,048	I withdraw the question or challenge. It seems now obviously out of character for what is usually discussed here by the regulars, and I apologize for mistakenly thinking otherwise. Mods, please close this thread. Thank you.

10-10-2002, 05:17 PM	#16
Peter Kirby Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: the reliquary of Ockham's razor Posts: 4,035	Kind Bud, I don't think that it was a bad or inappropriate question to ask here, but unfortunately it got derailed early into the realm of polemics. I would have wished for some intelligent discussion on the topic. I will respect your request to close the thread. best, Peter Kirby

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