MortalWombat

Here are some passages which say "three days"

Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Matthew 27:63
"Sir," they said, "we remember that while he was still alive that deceiver said, 'After three days I will rise again.'

Mark 8:31
He then began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and after three days rise again.

Mark 9:31
because he was teaching his disciples. He said to them, "The Son of Man is going to be betrayed into the hands of men. They will kill him, and after three days he will rise.

Mark 10:34
who will mock him and spit on him, flog him and kill him. Three days later he will rise.

atheist_in_foxhole

That the all-powerful deity apparently has no choice but to send us all to Hell unless we accept that he came to earth in the form of a man and participated in a bizarre blood sacrifice/suicide.

Rhea

"3 days and 3 nights"

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If I pay for a cruise for 3 days and 3 nights, and I get on the ship Friday, and they kick me off on Sunday, they've got some 'splainin to do.

Even if they simply say "3 days" and I get on at 3pm Friday and by sunrise Sunday my vacation's over... 'Splainin.

Even if they counted days from sunset to sunset... Hey, then they'd owe me an even BIGGER rebate! Unless that darkness counted as an extra sunset...



Why didn't this bother the ancients?
No cruises, maybe?

Amos

Nice analogy. The reason for Sunday is that on that particular Sunday evening did not follow the day. So in effect Sunday ended on Monday night. This is why Easter is celebrated for two days and is always celebrated on Sunday. Christmass, on the other hand, is also celebrated for two days because on that day the night lasted for two days and does not have to be celebrated on sunday to reflect this.

The implication of "evening does not follow the night" was foreshadowed in Gen 1 where on the seventh day evening did not follow the night. It means that if we do come full cirlce in life it will be the celestial light that illuminates us and not the light of common day. Just mythology, that's all.

Debbie T

The most important condraction to me is:

In Matthew 18:14
Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.

Yet in the bible this god orders time and time again, children to be killed, babies ripped from the womb (abortion?), and turning others into slaves.

Drowns all children in flood

Kills all children in Sodom and Gomorrah

Murders the first born in Egypt (some were still children)

Orders Saul to kill all the Amalekites even the children.

Sends 42 bears to kill children who dared make fun of a bald man.

There's more but this is enough to show the contradiction in Matthew that it is not the will of this god: "that one of these little ones should perish".

anime

The infidel's web page used to have a long list of alleged contradictions.

I had a link to that page on one of my pages, but they took it away!

Amos

Not a contradiction at all. Let me explain it in another way.

To be born again before its own time is equal to killing our first-born. Our firstborn is the little child we left behind long before we had our first haircut. The innocent image of children as little human animals, with no shame, no fears and no pretension is our firstborn image of man. If we add "salvation" as yet another image to our already overblown ego we replace that which can come as a thief at night by an immitation of it and that will kill our firstborn.

sakrilege

And it matters that we accecpt this belief only in the last minute of our lives regardless of what kind of choices we made during the 70 odd years most people live.

Fiach

Christians worship Jesus as God. But nowhere does Jesus claim to be God. In fact he say on the cross, "My God, My God, why hast THOU forsaken Me." This means Jesus was addressing another as God. He didn''t say Father, he said God, and addressed God as THOU and himself Jesus as Me drawing a sharp distinction between himself and God.

"My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me" indicates Jesus didn't expect things to turn out that way, nailed to the cross. He was not omniscient. He expected some other outcome or for God to rescue him. God never showed. Jesus was forsaken in his miind. That rules out divinity in my opinion.

Jesus if he was god, created bacteria including the one causing Hansen's Disease (Leprosy). But he didn't know that Leprosy was a contageous infectious disease due to an organism he created. He believed that sin caused disease, despite having created the bacterial cause. He didn't teach sanitation.

He didn't know about neuronal depolarisation and the transmission of electrical impulses through multiple circuits causing convulsions known as Epilepsy. He thought it was demon possession. So how could he be the designer of the Human brain and not know that?

He went up on a high mountain with Lucifer/Satan where they could see all of the nations of the earth in "one moment of time." He obviously never learned of the fact that Earth was a sphere. He could not have possibly seen from the Middle East the Meso-American Indian Empires, the Mississippi Hopewell Culture with cities of thousands of people, or the Andean Empire of South America. It is also unlikely given the Earth's arc that he would see Ireland, Lusitania (Portugal), Zimbabwe, Java, Japan, the Maori confederacy of New Zealand, the kingdom of Hawaii, the Chukchi of Eastern Siberia. So how could a supposed god who created the earth not know it was spherical but obviously thought it was flat. Aristothenes measured the earth's arc in Egypt 300 something BC and came close to calculating its circumference to a few percents of accuracy. But Greek teaching was lost on Jesus and those who wrote the Gospels, suppressed as heresy by the Christian church until Magellan proved it.

This is not a contradiction but too much for coincidence. He was virgin born long after Mithra, Horus, Aten, and about the same time as Apollonius of Tyrana. Like Mithra and Horus he was attended by shepherds. Like Mithra he was visited by three Magi (Zorastrian priests). Now why in the feck would Zoroastrian priests be visiting a Palestinian messiah of a religion "pagan" to them. Mithra, Horus, and Aten were executed and resurrected in three days. Although it is reflected in Jonah's three days in the intestinal tract of a fish but not digested, Jesus was put in the tomb late on Friday just before sundown, and arose at the latest early Sunday morning. That is not three days but more like 36-38 hours dead, not three days as some above noted.

Fiach

Amos

He was counted among the wicked and told us to follow him as sinner for the redemption of our prior Christ-like nature. The death of Jesus set free his image as man under the name of Bar-abbas = son of man . . . which is why there was a joung man dressed in white in the tomb. This is how "son of man" became a "young man."