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Realityisreality · 01-01-2002, 07:27 AM

God said he has "dealt to every man the measure of faith" so atheists have faith.They just don't know it.They go through life believing and this is faith.They work for an employer believing he will pay them their due,but they do not KNOW if he will.Thye can only take his word that he will.It is faith they practice on a daily basis.They eat and believe the food will sustain them.It is faith.They do not know if they will drop dead from a heart attack right after dinner.The can only believe.They say there is no God,but God said they say it,not believe it.Atheists believe the sun will rise tomorrow,but they do not know if an earthquake will split the earth in two when they lie sleeping.They know nothing as all of us know nothing.They believe even as all do.Thye just refuse to comply with God's instructions.it has nothing to do with "knowldedge" Atheists believe they will live today,but they might die this afternoon,as we all can die at any moment.What does an atheist actually know? He knows he will die someday.This is the thing he can depend on.Atheists love to inply that theists are dreamers and they are realists,but God tells us in the Bible that the atheist is all talk and nothing more.Atheists have faith as God said.They just exercise it to disobey God and nothing more.When theists exercise their faith,they do it in a positive way and obey God.It is all about obedience and disobedience.Devils believe too the Bible says,but it is no help for them.Men,angels and demons have faith.God said so.It is how we exercise that faith that matters,but it has nothing to do with faith's existence or power.Faith abides as does love and hope.1 Cor.13.God said that atheists SAY there is no God and God said they do it because they refuse to retain God in their knowledge so he gives them up to a reprobate mind.Romans 1 God makes everything simple to understand.

Stumpy · 01-01-2002, 07:41 AM

TROLL ALERT!! TROLL ALERT!!

Where's my net?

Queen of Swords · 01-01-2002, 07:48 AM

1. Space after period/fullstop.

2. Paragraph break.

3. Troll somewhere else.

SharonDee · 01-01-2002, 08:00 AM

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

*snark* *snuff* Hmmm...?

Oh...

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

x-member · 01-01-2002, 08:03 AM

<.sarcasm> Ah... I get it now...

Well, I don't know about you guys, but that made me a believer. I think I'll go pray or something..<./sarcasm>

DarkDruid · 01-01-2002, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Realityisreality:
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GO... AWAY.

BrunosStar · 01-01-2002, 12:41 PM

"God tells us in the Bible that the atheist is all talk and nothing more."

Oh that's right your god can back up his talk with death and destruction. Your god is about nothing else other than death, believe or die! You can rationalize it as Hollywood has and actually portray the Bible as some kind of book of humanity. The facts sir state otherwise, if there is a devil it is your god.

Liquidrage · 01-01-2002, 12:51 PM

Actually the one true God, Xoltar clearly states in the 5th Chapter of the Word of Xoltar that no man or woman has faith.

Chapter 5 verse 4:
"Man and woman, being dumb and stupid in my eyes, know not enough to make assumptions that would lead to faith."

Since I have no faith I can verfiy that this is true.
Therefore you have no faith either and are meerly deluded with hope that your false god will give you eternal life. Though In the 1st Chapter of the World of Xoltar is clearly states what will happen if one pretends to have faith.

"Anyone claiming faith will perish in the pits of eternal despair."

Though a Smith-Henesy translations from the original writtings done in Spanish have the same verse as,
"Anyone claiming faith will perish in the pits of eternal suffering."

Either way it is clear that if you do not repent your evil ways of faith you will be doomed to bad things for eternity.

sentinel00 · 01-01-2002, 01:02 PM

Whether or not the OP is a good argument or no, this is not the forum to hold discussions of this topic. I am moving it to MRD, where hopefully this debate on semantics can find a wider audience.

01-01-2002, 07:27 AM	#1
Realityisreality Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 5	Atheists have faith without knowing it God said he has "dealt to every man the measure of faith" so atheists have faith.They just don't know it.They go through life believing and this is faith.They work for an employer believing he will pay them their due,but they do not KNOW if he will.Thye can only take his word that he will.It is faith they practice on a daily basis.They eat and believe the food will sustain them.It is faith.They do not know if they will drop dead from a heart attack right after dinner.The can only believe.They say there is no God,but God said they say it,not believe it.Atheists believe the sun will rise tomorrow,but they do not know if an earthquake will split the earth in two when they lie sleeping.They know nothing as all of us know nothing.They believe even as all do.Thye just refuse to comply with God's instructions.it has nothing to do with "knowldedge" Atheists believe they will live today,but they might die this afternoon,as we all can die at any moment.What does an atheist actually know? He knows he will die someday.This is the thing he can depend on.Atheists love to inply that theists are dreamers and they are realists,but God tells us in the Bible that the atheist is all talk and nothing more.Atheists have faith as God said.They just exercise it to disobey God and nothing more.When theists exercise their faith,they do it in a positive way and obey God.It is all about obedience and disobedience.Devils believe too the Bible says,but it is no help for them.Men,angels and demons have faith.God said so.It is how we exercise that faith that matters,but it has nothing to do with faith's existence or power.Faith abides as does love and hope.1 Cor.13.God said that atheists SAY there is no God and God said they do it because they refuse to retain God in their knowledge so he gives them up to a reprobate mind.Romans 1 God makes everything simple to understand.

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01-01-2002, 07:41 AM	#2
Stumpy Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: <NULL> Posts: 90	TROLL ALERT!! TROLL ALERT!! Where's my net?

01-01-2002, 07:48 AM	#3
Queen of Swords Contributor Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Canada. Finally. Posts: 10,155	1. Space after period/fullstop. 2. Paragraph break. 3. Troll somewhere else.

01-01-2002, 08:00 AM	#4
SharonDee Regular Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the Bible Belt (TN hole) Posts: 317	Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... snark snuff Hmmm...? Oh... Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

01-01-2002, 08:03 AM	#5
x-member Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: free Posts: 123	<.sarcasm> Ah... I get it now... Well, I don't know about you guys, but that made me a believer. I think I'll go pray or something..<./sarcasm>

01-01-2002, 12:41 PM	#7
BrunosStar Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tarzana Posts: 88	"God tells us in the Bible that the atheist is all talk and nothing more." Oh that's right your god can back up his talk with death and destruction. Your god is about nothing else other than death, believe or die! You can rationalize it as Hollywood has and actually portray the Bible as some kind of book of humanity. The facts sir state otherwise, if there is a devil it is your god.

01-01-2002, 12:51 PM	#8
Liquidrage Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 1,301	Actually the one true God, Xoltar clearly states in the 5th Chapter of the Word of Xoltar that no man or woman has faith. Chapter 5 verse 4: "Man and woman, being dumb and stupid in my eyes, know not enough to make assumptions that would lead to faith." Since I have no faith I can verfiy that this is true. Therefore you have no faith either and are meerly deluded with hope that your false god will give you eternal life. Though In the 1st Chapter of the World of Xoltar is clearly states what will happen if one pretends to have faith. "Anyone claiming faith will perish in the pits of eternal despair." Though a Smith-Henesy translations from the original writtings done in Spanish have the same verse as, "Anyone claiming faith will perish in the pits of eternal suffering." Either way it is clear that if you do not repent your evil ways of faith you will be doomed to bad things for eternity.

01-01-2002, 01:02 PM	#9
sentinel00 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Mayor of Terminus Posts: 7,616	Whether or not the OP is a good argument or no, this is not the forum to hold discussions of this topic. I am moving it to MRD, where hopefully this debate on semantics can find a wider audience.

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