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For a religion or worldview to be true, it must be kind. It must not be evil. It does not matter whether the religion or worldview is reasonable; what matters is its kindness. Christianity has the evil doctrine of eternal torture in it, so it cannot be true. Hell is unkind, therefore Christianity is false. Atheism has the bleak doctrine of a universe of blind, pitiless indifference, and death as oblivion eternal, which are emotionally abhorrent notions, therefore atheism cannot be true. Islam has the evil doctrine of eternal torture like Christianity, and it has the evil of slobbering submission to God. It cannot be true. Truth is good and kind, not evil and cruel. If it is cruel, it is not truth, but the Devil's Lie. Christianity and Islam are the Devil's Lie. The author of these religions is none other than Satan. Humanity should stay away from these diabolical lies and turn to a kind religion.

The universe at large is the result of an act of love - a sexual union between the God and the Goddess billions of years ago, which is known as the Big Bang. Life on earth is similarly the result of an act of sexual union - the joining of the phallus of lightning with the womb of the sea in the early Earth. I believe life was conceived in kindness and love, and life is never to end in oblivion. Since I do not have girlfriend in this life, and I have no hope of getting one in this life, there must be an afterlife where I shall have a girlfriend. This must be true, or else there is much unkindness. If death is oblivion, then it is what I most fear. Since I fear death as oblivion, there must be life after death. This is true, and not open to debate.

Demosthenes

How do you know that a true religion is kind, for all we know, the true one could require people to be tortured and their gentials cut off before they'll be saved. Or maybe in the true religion there's no afterlife at all, just nothing, or even infinite reincarnation.

Devnet, just because you want something in your life doesn't make it true.

That's trying to fullfill your wishes. Nothing's not open to debate. How do you know that you're right? People in the past have claimed that they're absolutely correct and not open to debate. Historyhave long since proved those people wrong.

Gemma Therese

"The basic reason why moderns disbelieve in hell is because they really disbelieve in freedom and responsibility. To believe in hell is to assert that the consequences of good and evil acts are not indifferent." - Fulton Sheen, "Preface to Religion"

Gemma Therese

GunnerJ

T DEVNET: Atheism is not kind, harsh, evil, or good. It is the lack of belief in god(s). Nothing more. Nothing less. Considering it among "religions" for its kindness/harshness is thus a fallacy.

Further, I have yet to see you validate your claim that the truth cannot be cruel.

T GEMMA: You are quite adept at coming up with quotes, but seem very poor at using your own reason. Tell me, what finate action deserves infinate punishment?

smugg

A romantic notion, devnet, but I don't find it compelling. There are maltheists out there who are probably just as 'correct' as any other kind of theist.

And don't forget that even the phallus can be a torturous instrument.

Amos

To think that you are in charge of our destiny while in fact you don't even know who you really are. The ego is finite while the soul is infinite and so it is wrong for the ego to permanently harm the soulmate of our birth. Protestants glorify this act and call it salvation . . . for which reason they must die before anything good will happen tot them.

Amos

Religion is not a worldview but a means to the end and the end is eternal life while alive on this earth. Christianity is never a religion but is a condition of being and the end of Catholicism in Christendom. To achieve this religion must become the negative stand in the revolt between the believer and the faith that led him to this point and so religion must become wrong for metanoia to be possible.

After metanoia eternal life proves that [temporal] life was an illusion caused by oblivion to that which is eternal and real.

Darth Dane

Please note the difference between christianity and the teachings of Jesus. IMO they are two seperate things and Jesus´ teachings was also kind. "ask and you shall be given" "Love thy neighbour as you love yourself" "Kingdom is inside of your hearts" Hearts = Love?


I agree with the notion. Religion should be kind. Or simply love.

"All you need is Love"

Many people have discovered this truth. "once I was blind, now I can see", now I can see that I am blind.


Love love me do





DD - Love Spliff

-RRH-

The condemned man screams at the guards, "There is no noose! I do not deserve to be killed, so there can be no noose!"

On the scaffold, he grins and plans how he will escape once he hits the ground.

GunnerJ

RRH, if I understand your analogy, then I believe you have misunderstood me. I was not arguing that hell does not exist because hell is unjust.* I disbelieve in hell because no evidence supports its existence. My question to Gemma was to challenge the implied assumption in her quote that some people deserve to go to hell, if we posit, for the sake of argument, its existence. Given that most of her quote posits that disbelief in hell comes from a lack of belief in responsibility for the consequences of a person's actions, I can see how you might have made that mistake. I chose not to argue against this assumption because it is absurd on the face of it. I felt the question of the justice of metting infinate punishment for finate crimes was a more interesting one.

*Although to be fair, devnet argues just this... please excuse (and indulge!) my egotism in assuming that your statement was in reply to me.