rainbow walking

It’s very simple really and probably more accurately reflects the spiritual journey of most humans than we will want to admit. Here’s how it goes:

Begin your journey by freely choosing to be a fundamental christain believer. Then, each day, freely choose to alter your stance a little more towards non-belief until you reach the point of absolute zero faith and then begin all over again. This way, since few of us know the day and manner of our death, whatever worldview you happen to freely believe at the time of death will be the position you will stand before God in, but, not to worry. You have a valid logical response to God if the question of hell comes up.

You can argue with God that you used the same principles of freewill and chance that He used when he left you here to find your own way and therefore you lived in compliance with His example. He couldn’t possibly sentence you to hell for that…could he?

free12thinker

Depends on who you ask?
What time of day it is when you ask.
How much money the Christian you ask has in his/her pocket.
How good their life is at that point and time.
Need I go on?



But hey. Sounds as good a guarantee for salvation as one could hope. At least they better hope it is, because as you said, this is exactly how most people (even die-hard christians) live anyway. Whether they'll admit it or not is another story altogether.

Ojuice5001

Good plan. I figure it's a great way to maximize the pax deorum* of the world if your life includes the worship of Jesus, and of the Roman gods, and of secular principles. At first I was disappointed that you joined the "dark side," but now I'm thinking, rainbow walking, you are the man! <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" />

*Pax deorum is a Roman concept. It translates to "peace with the gods" and means that even though we don't really know what kinds of gods there are, we still can and should do our best to be friends with them. It's why the Roman Empire tolerated almost all religions, except for nuts like the early Christians.

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Boone K. Lowe

John 14:6 (please read)

I'll pray for you.

Godless Dave

OK, Boone, I read it. What's your point?

Koyaanisqatsi

And if "God" turns out to be Allah?

brighid

Koy -

Then we are all fucked! Especially if you are a woman. The idea of 72 male virgins is really NOT appealing to me!

B

HelenM

Hi Boone

Why didn't you quote it if you want people to read it?

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."

If you read on a bit I like verse 15:

If you love Me, keep My commandments.

love
Helen

Wyrdsmyth

If there is a God, the best thing you can do is have intellectual integrity when you go before him when you die. Of course, if he's omniscient, he won't need to ask why you believed or didn't believe in him. He'll know. So any kind of 'hedging your bets' strategy would of course be transparent to him. If there is a heaven, I can't imagine that Pascal and the other horsetrack theologists actually made it in because they knew best how to play the odds.

To me, the path to "spiritual salvation" or "inner peace" or self-actualization, moksha, Nirvana, satori or whatever you want to call it, is to be absolutely honest with yourself. If deep down, you really believe in God, then fine... go with that, and live accordingly. But if you're not sure, just admit it -- that's okay, too. And if you think all religion, gods and the supernatural are just a lot of lies and hokum (like I do), then it must be for a reason.

We don't choose what we believe, rainbow; we believe what we think is true.

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rainbow walking

Allah, God, Zues...what's the difference.