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Old 05-31-2003, 09:53 AM   #1
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The only thing we know about Jesus and homosexuals is that he loves them the same as everybody else. But I know "love the sinner, hate the sin" is hard for some to grasp here. Why, I don't know.

Basically "Christian" homosexuals want a special dispensation from God allowing their sin, while accepting that other sins should be rightly punished, apparently. Why else would they be Christians? They want salvation from the punishment for sin, except that which they personally deem OK.

Their sin is different. "We can't help it. We're born that way."

Why shouldn't murderers, pedophiles and adulterers have the same excuse? Why should a man given to adultery have to confess his sin and resist other women? Or should he just rewrite the NT to justify having many partners?

IMO, "Christians" who actively practice homosexuality are either incredibly ignorant or are hypocrites rationalizing ways around the Law, instead of admitting they could never possibly obey it. They'd be better off on judgement day just rejecting God and the NT, than rewriting it to justify their own lust and means of satisfying it.

No "Christian" gets to do that, for any reason.

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On the subject of this thread, I've seen the theory that Mary Magdalene was not really Jesus Christ's girlfriend, as many have speculated, but his "beard", a woman hired to make a homosexual man seem heterosexual.

(on Jesus Christ being homosexual...)

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Doubtless the readers and writers of such unsupported nonsense still gather on Mars Hill since they have nothing better to do than "hear and tell something new."

Actually, this is Epicurus's garden. So please don't eat the daisies.

The only thing we know about Jesus and homosexuals is that he loves them the same as everybody else.

Then why can't this allegedly omnipotent personage make homosexual people heterosexual?

But I know "love the sinner, hate the sin" is hard for some to grasp here. Why, I don't know.

Then stop whining about any and every criticism of your beliefs as if it was a personal attack.
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Then why can't this allegedly omnipotent personage make homosexual people heterosexual?
He has, by the thousands I hear.

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Then stop whining about any and every criticism of your beliefs as if it was a personal attack.
You have me mixed up with some banned fella, I think.

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IMO, "Christians" who actively practice homosexuality are either incredibly ignorant or are hypocrites rationalizing ways around the Law, instead of admitting they could never possibly obey it.
So, they're hypocrites just like you, huh?

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Then why can't this allegedly omnipotent personage make homosexual people heterosexual?

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He has, by the thousands I hear.

News to me. I've never heard of someone waking up one day and discovering that he/she has stopped being homosexual and started being heterosexual.
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Then why can't this allegedly omnipotent personage make homosexual people heterosexual?

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He has, by the thousands I hear.

News to me. I've never heard of someone waking up one day and discovering that he/she has stopped being homosexual and started being heterosexual.
Even if it were true why couldn't an all powerfull god change all of them to heterosexual instead of letting the families of these xian queers suffer? In Abilene, Texas a queer preacher tried to convince himself that he was straight. He married and had children, but couldn't handle it and just ran off one day. After twenty years he was found hundredes of miles away. He was still queer, and still a preacher but now he is being a little more honest. He is a queer preacher in a queer church.
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Thank you for your patience and carry on.
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Basically "Christian" homosexuals want a special dispensation from God allowing their sin, while accepting that other sins should be rightly punished, apparently.
Thank you for that straw man. If you had done your homework before posting this, you would know that churches like UFMCC argue no such thing.

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You hear? Then it must be true! Who could possibly want more evidence than that? By the way, do you know who John Paulk is?
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Assuming that these Christian homosexuals are wrong in that they should just give up homosexuality, aren't they still saved by believing in God? Heaven/Hell is a Yes or No matter. You can't end up half in both. And I understand belief is the crucial point.
So, if they're saved and going to heaven, what's the big hairy deal?

>>They'd be better off on judgement day just rejecting God and the NT, than rewriting it to justify their own lust and means of satisfying it. <<
Whoa, openly gay christians will be punished more severly than atheists?
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Why shouldn't murderers, pedophiles and adulterers have the same excuse?
Oh, I don't know, maybe it's because murderers, pedophiles, and adulterers are non-consensually harming someone, and homosexuals aren't?
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