Muffinstuffer

Wow...and I'm a wee lad of 27. I don't have to call you 'sir' do I?

Ronin

To 39 via gunfire and blood as well, my friend...I know what you mean.

Rational BAC

Strangely enough Muffin---and I am sure you know this quite well and Ronin has not a clue----------

Prayer does work.

I don't know why. But I'll take it. If Ronin tried it, I have a funny feeling it would work for him too.

But, somehow I doubt that he will try it.

You do not know what you are missing out on Ronin.

Rhea

Hey Muff. Don't claim to be a Christian on the internet who is "currently bible-less"

www.biblegateway.com

Seriously. Think that one through.

Aaacck. Ronin is right this is a clear example of dangerous lack of thinking. Let's see.
[list=1][*]Aunt was pregnant[*]Aunt was stuck with a needle.[*]Needle had HepC.[*](NOWHERE DO WE LEARN WHETHER AUNT HAS HEPC)[*](note to Christians: not all needle sticks result in an infection!)[*]Prayer to Pat (Oh yeah the one who says China's abortion policy is probably the best thing that they could do!! And who says that gays and Atheists are the reason why god allowed the religionists to fly into the WTC)[*]Call to aunt finds "HepC GONE" (hallelujah)[/list=1]

Hello!!
How can the HepC be "gone" when we never knew she actually had any!
What a MIRACLE (of breathtaking logic)

Please call back and find out if those doctors who wouldn't touch her with a 10-foot pole (violating their hyppocratic oath) actually diagnosed her as having ACQUIRED HepC.


Meanwhile, _I_ have a friend who got stuck with an AIDS needle. She never got HIV! Imagine that. The needle stick did NOT result in an infection. That is, the infectious agent was either not present on the exterior of the needle or was no longer active or did not gain a foothold.

Hallelujah. (Lucky her!)

I am anxious to hear whether your aunt actually had a diagnosis of HepC by a blood test. Not that it minimizes her anxiety at all, that sounds like a very scary situation and I am so glad to hear that she did not get infected.

Rhea

LOL, I was thinking it meant "Rational Birth After Cesarean" Chuckle.

Muffinstuffer

Heh, I'm the baby here.

Hey! This means whenever I can't answer a question, I can just claim inexperience. Sweet.

Rational BAC

No Muffin--

You do not have to call me "sir". Rather you wouldn't.

Makes me feel so damned old you know.

Muffinstuffer

I would ask you to go back and review some of my posts.

Number ONE, this comes from my WIFE. I specifically said that I COULD be wrong because I am getting the information secondhand, from my wife, and there is ALWAYS the possibility that I got incorrect information. I said that my wife told me that she WAS diagnosed with it, but I will be more than glad to double check.

Number two....let's go back and review the 2 paragraphs I wrote. I'll put some of the important words in bold:

Now, NOWHERE in there did I say that I KNOW BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT FOR MYSELF that she was diagnosed with Hep-C. I said that I asked my wife THE VERY SAME QUESTION you posed to me, and she said "Yes." I've been wrong before, and she has been wrong before, and I will be MORE THAN GLAD to go back and verify, and if she says "Well, she wasn't DIAGNOSED WITH IT for sure" then I will have NO problem repeating that on this board, because I ALSO recall saying

and

(who could have very easily misspoke or such)

and finally

I personally believe that even if she was never positively diagnosed with it, my bloodthirsty, tyrannical, hatemongering God was still watching out for her....but that's just me.

Let's go over this ONE more time...JUST BECAUSE I am a Christian does not mean that EVERY GOOD THING that happens to me is a miracle straight from God, nor does it mean that I never make mistakes (heh...I think we know this already from the whole 'saying the Pledge in church' post ), NOR does it mean that I'm irrational about EVERYTHING I do, and never use some common sense and logic.

Muffinstuffer

Uh...I didn't claim to be BIBLELESS.

I said, and I quote (cuz I'm using those HTML tags )

(emphasis mine )

If I had NO access to a Bible, then I would also have no way of finding out that it was not actually Jesus HIMSELF who spoke, but the man in the parable that Jesus told who spoken.

Ronin

I will remain. The universe is eternal. I enjoy your company.

Very good, then, realizing that is half of the battle.

As long as you honestly assess the virtue of humanism compared to the folly of supernaturalism and the tales associated with it, you are among supportive people.

As a human doing such works, according to the tales, you'll have no argument from me...we can all behave in such a manner...no coercion or selfish reward necessary.

There is a wondrous advantage by seeking a real humanistic answer...that of integrity and sincerity.

The biblical answers will always be lacking, Muffinstuffer, if you do not know what good and compassionate is as a human being existing in the real universe in plain view.

So you are confirming for us that without any real intervention at all your Aunt was *cured* of such a devastating disease as Hep C via a television set?

Perhaps you should investigate for yourself exactly how this incident occurred prior to making such a recommendation for others to emulate.

[quote]Come on, Ronin. Did I say ANYWHERE within my post that I think praying through a television set for an intervention is preferable to real medical treatment? Are you now recanting your assessment of the event you proposed by implication?

You are rapidly losing credibility here, Muffinstuffer.