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Anathema · 09-10-2002, 12:41 PM

<a href="http://www.harunyahya.com/70the_fall_of_atheism_sci34.php" target="_blank">http://www.harunyahya.com/70the_fall_of_atheism_sci34.php</a>

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I guess she has it all figured it out!!!
God (allah) must exist!!!!

<img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" />

Javaman · 09-10-2002, 12:51 PM

That's hilarious! Lots of references to the "atheist dogma". I didn't even know I had a dogma. I have four cats, though. My belief in the scientific method stands apart from, but upholds my "I see no gods" stance.

This really just goes back to the old I don't care what you say about yourself, I'm defining you with my own beliefs about what I think you believe or what others tell me about you (Noah Webster included) .

Blu · 09-10-2002, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Anathema:
<strong>I guess she has it all figured it out!!!
God (allah) must exist!!!!

<img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" /> </strong>

Haran Yahya is a man. Why do you refer to the writer as a "she"? Just curious.

Keith Russell · 09-10-2002, 04:45 PM

Greetings:

As if saying something makes it so.

I also had no idea atheists had ever been so numerous that it could have been described as 'the Atheist World'.

We've always been the minority.

(As if truth is 'what lots and lots of people believe'.)

Keith.

Goliath · 09-10-2002, 04:49 PM

Anathema,

From the URL that you gave in your OP:

Quote:

Of course, atheism, the idea of rejecting God�s existence

Incorrect. Atheism is nothing more than a lack of belief in the existence of any gods.

Before you attempt to attack atheism, try to learn what it is that you're attacking.

Sincerely,

Goliath

Jobar · 09-10-2002, 04:57 PM

Hello Anathema- I would say 'welcome' but you registered before I did!

The EoG forum is for the more deeply philosophical discussions, so I am moving your thread to Misc. Religion Discussions. I hope you enjoy your time at II! Jobar.

Anathema · 09-12-2002, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Goliath:
<strong>Anathema,

From the URL that you gave in your OP:

Incorrect. Atheism is nothing more than a lack of belief in the existence of any gods.

Before you attempt to attack atheism, try to learn what it is that you're attacking.

Sincerely,

Goliath</strong>

No kiddin' bud!!!
I'm in YOUR corner. I posted this absurd article to help outline the falacious views that the so-called "religious right" holds concerning those of 'unbelief'!!

I AM an infidel!

DarkBronzePlant · 09-12-2002, 09:15 AM

Quote:

This is because to accept that the universe had a beginning would mean that God created it and the only way to counter this idea was to claim that the universe was eternal.

Strawman, anyone?

Harumi · 09-12-2002, 11:02 AM

There are stupid people, and then there are stupid people.

Tom Sawyer · 09-12-2002, 01:41 PM

Interesting. It appears that the main thrust of this article is that:

1) sometimes scientific theories are wrong
2) atheists like scientific theories
3) therefore, atheism is wrong and there's a God

How about this then:

1) sometimes religious theories are wrong
2) theists like religious theories
3) therefore, theism is wrong and there's no God

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09-10-2002, 12:51 PM	#2
Javaman Veteran Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,708	That's hilarious! Lots of references to the "atheist dogma". I didn't even know I had a dogma. I have four cats, though. My belief in the scientific method stands apart from, but upholds my "I see no gods" stance. This really just goes back to the old I don't care what you say about yourself, I'm defining you with my own beliefs about what I think you believe or what others tell me about you (Noah Webster included) .

09-10-2002, 04:45 PM	#4
Keith Russell Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Overland Park, Kansas Posts: 1,336	Greetings: As if saying something makes it so. I also had no idea atheists had ever been so numerous that it could have been described as 'the Atheist World'. We've always been the minority. (As if truth is 'what lots and lots of people believe'.) Keith.

09-10-2002, 04:57 PM	#6
Jobar Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: secularcafe.org Posts: 9,525	Hello Anathema- I would say 'welcome' but you registered before I did! The EoG forum is for the more deeply philosophical discussions, so I am moving your thread to Misc. Religion Discussions. I hope you enjoy your time at II! Jobar.

09-12-2002, 11:02 AM	#9
Harumi Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N/A Posts: 3,184	There are stupid people, and then there are stupid people.

09-12-2002, 01:41 PM	#10
Tom Sawyer Talk Freethought Staff Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto, eh Posts: 42,293	Interesting. It appears that the main thrust of this article is that: 1) sometimes scientific theories are wrong 2) atheists like scientific theories 3) therefore, atheism is wrong and there's a God How about this then: 1) sometimes religious theories are wrong 2) theists like religious theories 3) therefore, theism is wrong and there's no God

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