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d'naturalist · 08-20-2002, 12:09 AM

>Of course there are no atheists in foxholes...
We're on the battlefield, defending liberty & justice for all!

Some less-polite variations:
>Of course there are no atheists in foxholes...
We're on the battlefield! (Why are you hiding in that stinkin' hole?!)

>Of course ther are no atheists in foxholes...
Can you say "friendly fire"?

Other thoughts:

>Think you very much!

>Some thoughts are worth a penny,
but free thoughts are priceless!

>Don't tread on me! Break out the ole rattlesnake flags.

[ August 20, 2002: Message edited by: d'naturalist ]

Stephen Maturin · 08-20-2002, 05:54 AM

"Leave the matter of religion to the family altar, the church, and private schools entirely supported by private contributions. Keep the church and state forever separate."

- U.S. Grant, Sept. 1875 Address to the Army of the Tennessee

Way too long for a banner, of course, but the above quote is good T-shirt material.

gilly54 · 08-20-2002, 09:16 AM

There are some really good ideas in the Photoshop thread. For instance, this one by freemonkey on page 41:

and of course, my favourite, gumby's Uncle Sam.

clark · 08-20-2002, 11:00 AM

I think banners at the Godless March should have a positive message: "Freedom of Conscience for All: Religious and Non-Religious"; "Godless and Proud"; "Atheist Patriot"; "Secular Humanists for a Secular America"; Founding Father quotes, etc.

I hope nobody brings anti-religious or "arrogant" banners. My wife will be leaving her shirt that Penn Jillette signed "Fuck God" at home

.

The messages we want to send at the March, in my opinion, as a board member of two supporting organizations, are 1) that non-religious people are a sizable minority; 2) Godless people are "normal" without horns or chips on their shoulders; and 3) Godless people live happy, normal lives.

THOUGHTfully Yours,
Clark Adams

4th Generation Atheist · 08-20-2002, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PJPSYCO:
Well, if your gonna be so 50, that would make you 36, and eligable to run for president in the next election. So, no more waaaah. Run for pesident!

Uh, if you met me in person, you'd see why I don't. Thanks for the vote of confidence anyway! (I wonder what my campaign slogan would be?)

"If nominated I will not run, if elected I will not serve..."
-William Tecumseh Sherman

Alonzo Fyfe · 08-20-2002, 04:11 PM

I agree with those who hope that there are no anti-religious sentiments. A reasonable estimate is that, for example, over 50% of those who support the Pledge ruling are Christian. Why lump those who are willing to practice their religion in peace with those who support a more inquisitionesque morality?

If there are negative signs, I would hope that they target specific abuses rather than launch geneneral, generic attacks against religion. Specifically, something that distinguishes religions that practice an inquisitionesque morality as opposed to those who practice a more peaceful religion.

ashibaka · 08-20-2002, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PJPSYCO:
Under God or Indivisible, Pick one.

I want to see this on a 20-foot-long banner waving above the crowd for all the people watching on TV who just don't get it. By popular request, please? I'm not sure if the public would understand the "theocracy" ones.

Alonzo Fyfe · 08-20-2002, 04:40 PM

Concerning the banner, "Under God, or Indivisible. Pick one."

Quote:

Originally posted by ashibaka:
I want to see this on a 20-foot-long banner waving above the crowd for all the people watching on TV who just don't get it.

Here's the problem. Those who don't get it will read this not as an assertion that they are contradicting themselves. They will read it as a threat. As "Either you do what I want and remove 'under God' from the Pledge, or I will split this country in two."

ashibaka · 08-20-2002, 04:55 PM

Hmmm... good point. Eurgh, is there anything that can't be taken the wrong way?

abe smith · 08-21-2002, 05:25 AM

Your "GOD" is a human fiction.

08-20-2002, 12:09 AM	#21
d'naturalist Regular Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: USA Posts: 245	>Of course there are no atheists in foxholes... We're on the battlefield, defending liberty & justice for all! Some less-polite variations: >Of course there are no atheists in foxholes... We're on the battlefield! (Why are you hiding in that stinkin' hole?!) >Of course ther are no atheists in foxholes... Can you say "friendly fire"? Other thoughts: >Think* you very much!* >Some thoughts are worth a penny, but free thoughts are priceless! >Don't tread on me! Break out the ole rattlesnake flags. [ August 20, 2002: Message edited by: d'naturalist ]</p>

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08-20-2002, 05:54 AM	#22
Stephen Maturin Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Broomfield, Colorado, USA Posts: 1,295	"Leave the matter of religion to the family altar, the church, and private schools entirely supported by private contributions. Keep the church and state forever separate." - U.S. Grant, Sept. 1875 Address to the Army of the Tennessee Way too long for a banner, of course, but the above quote is good T-shirt material.

08-20-2002, 09:16 AM	#23
gilly54 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Almaden, California Posts: 917	There are some really good ideas in the Photoshop thread. For instance, this one by freemonkey on page 41: and of course, my favourite, gumby's Uncle Sam.

08-20-2002, 11:00 AM	#24
clark Beloved Deceased Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Sin City, NV, USA Posts: 3,715	I think banners at the Godless March should have a positive message: "Freedom of Conscience for All: Religious and Non-Religious"; "Godless and Proud"; "Atheist Patriot"; "Secular Humanists for a Secular America"; Founding Father quotes, etc. I hope nobody brings anti-religious or "arrogant" banners. My wife will be leaving her shirt that Penn Jillette signed "Fuck God" at home . The messages we want to send at the March, in my opinion, as a board member of two supporting organizations, are 1) that non-religious people are a sizable minority; 2) Godless people are "normal" without horns or chips on their shoulders; and 3) Godless people live happy, normal lives. THOUGHTfully Yours, Clark Adams

08-20-2002, 04:11 PM	#26
Alonzo Fyfe Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: 920B Milo Circle Lafayette, CO Posts: 3,515	I agree with those who hope that there are no anti-religious sentiments. A reasonable estimate is that, for example, over 50% of those who support the Pledge ruling are Christian. Why lump those who are willing to practice their religion in peace with those who support a more inquisitionesque morality? If there are negative signs, I would hope that they target specific abuses rather than launch geneneral, generic attacks against religion. Specifically, something that distinguishes religions that practice an inquisitionesque morality as opposed to those who practice a more peaceful religion.

08-20-2002, 04:55 PM	#29
ashibaka Regular Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cloudy Water Posts: 443	Hmmm... good point. Eurgh, is there anything that can't be taken the wrong way?

08-21-2002, 05:25 AM	#30
abe smith Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: springfield, MA. USA Posts: 2,482	Your "GOD" is a human fiction.

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