Arrowman

Just to let our US friends know that we have loony politicians too....

Only extremists wear chador, claims Nile



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Praxiteles

Ugh. My eyes bugged when I read the article about this in the paper this morning. I didn't seem him claiming that nuns and monks could use their loose attire to conceal weaponry.

Nile is a frogwit.

BTW, I'm certain that the more astute of our US colleagues would only be too well aware that we are occasionally afflicted by brainfree pollies. The Hanson Ogre got plenty of overseas coverage, I suspect....

Cheers,
Prax

Hayden

<a href="http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/11/21/1037697806923.html" target="_blank">Little Johnny chimes in...</a>

That's not much better.

HR

Xeluan

I'm disgusted. What a evasive, cynical answer from Little Johnny. I wonder when politicians are going to develop the spine to actually state what they believe in.

I hear that nudity will now be required in Sydney. Better get to that gym.

Xeluan

uhcord

I wouldn't mind that =P

Xeluan

I dunno. Some people naked could be a scary sight. Others though.....

Xeluan

Pitshade

This should be in Church/State Separation.

Praxiteles

Why?

Church/state separation is an American thing, and this is most definitely an Australian discussion. Why is a discussion about Australian politics relevant to a US politics forum?

Since the thread is clearly a bitch about that jerk, Fred Nile, RRP is clearly a more appropriate home.

Just my opinion, of course.


Cheers,
Prax

Arrowman

Well, I'm just pleased to see a thread of mine "promoted"

I don't think CSS is simply "an American thing" - the concept may be more clearly defined, discussed and tested in America but it is a common issue to all democracies. Note also that the Australian Consitution includes almost exactly the same words on this subject as does the US Constitution - tha main difference (IMHO) is that for whatever reason it has never been as strongly tested (especially in the courts) here as in the US.

All of which is why you hardly ever see a non-American thread in this forum.

But all that aside - IMHO it's only CSS beacause a politican said it; anyone else and it would be - what? General Religion (see how quickly I catch on to the new lingo ) ? Misc Disc? Politics?

It's all a bit shakey so it might as well sit here. Anyway - this is a pretty high-traffic forum so it might get some more interest here

Howard's Whimpy Response:

I'm not sure "cynical" is the word I would use - more like "gutless". I think Howard's equivocal response (and Downer's equally lame one, which I think was an attempt at humour) is just plain a wasted opportunity.

Howard might be a deeply conservative man, and a religious one, but he also (IMHO) is essentially a decent man who would not in any sense go along with Nile's foolishness. As with Pauline Hanson, this sort of thing needs strong condemnation and derision from out leaders. But Howard seems to shy away from raising the hackles of a portion of the electorate that is much smaller than he seems to think it is.

Howard is wasting an opportunity here; he is a very popular openly conservative leader. He can afford to lead [the conservative electorate] on this issue, but he chooses to whimp out. Silly bastard.

Praxiteles

Which invalidates my assertion how? CSS is a political non-issue in Australia, and from my understanding of history has never been an issue since Federation.

Although I don't disagree generally with what you say, I can't seem how this thread in particular is more appropriate in this forum, which is for discussions about religion in government.

Still, it is your thread, and since you said: I can understand your defence of the move.

I think you were right first time, personally. A bitch belongs in RRP, and that's what your OP was. Still, it's your thread, and if you're happy with the move, so be it, Jedi.


Cheers,
Prax

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