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Yellum Notnef · 02-16-2003, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by atheist_in_foxhole
Sounds pretty bad. Ever seen an angry she bear?

I certainly have and can assure you that you don`t want to be anywhere near it.

(This is not a joke. I really did have an encounter with an angry bear in New Hampshire)

02-16-2003, 02:52 PM

Me too. In Alaska. But the bears that Jesus sent to eat those 42 children must have been a hell of a lot bigger. Not to mention hungrier.

02-16-2003, 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by atheist_in_foxhole
2 Kings 2:23-24:

"And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them"

Sounds pretty bad. Ever seen an angry she bear?

Looks like they had one each. Do you think bears can count?

Yellum Notnef · 02-16-2003, 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by atheist_in_foxhole
Me too. In Alaska. But the bears that Jesus sent to eat those 42 children must have been a hell of a lot bigger. Not to mention hungrier.

Yeah and they were also really pissed off that those kids were making fun of a bald dude. I didn`t make any remarks about hair loss while in New Hampdhire so maybe thats why the bear decided not to eat me.

Opera Nut · 02-16-2003, 08:19 PM

O.T. : "His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace."

Matthew 10: Jesus said, "I come not in peace, but with a sword."

Radorth · 02-16-2003, 08:36 PM

He let the apostles have two swords, as it turned out. No evidence they did anything with them except slice bacon though.

For more info, read the atheist H.G. Wells' commentary (in his Short History of the World) on the kind of sword Jesus brought.

Hey Opera Nut, ever confront Muslims about the activities of Muhammed and associates? I'm thinking you might have a case.

Rad

Radorth · 02-16-2003, 08:43 PM

It's fortunate Jesus had hair, I guess.

OK let's get back to the contradictions. I only have a half hour to read and refute the rest of them.

Rad

Radorth · 02-16-2003, 08:48 PM

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Sounds pretty bad. Ever seen an angry she bear?

Just my wife. I don't kid her about her hair anymore though.

Rad

Opera Nut · 02-16-2003, 10:00 PM

Nope I don't mess with Muslims.

I've had enough fun arguing with fundies. After explaining my beliefs, I've been told that I am "an evil, controlling, horrible woman", that I "don't understand the Bible very well", that I will counter their arguments for jesus with "more bullshit", and that furthermore, that I "Don't know what I believe" and am "confused". Not to mention that I and this man's father "now cease to exist in his eyes".

In other words, they didn't get it. No comprende ingles.
:banghead:

HaysooChreesto! · 02-17-2003, 07:53 AM

The most telling and damning contradiction that I see in the NT is the passage where Jesus promises his followers that some of them will still be alive to see him come back and reclaim the world. I don't have the passage, but I'm sure someone else does. I read it again just this weekend while perusing through George H Smith's "Atheism: The Case Against God". I've read it before but I was bored.

At any rate, that one passage (and several others like it) should be enough to convince anyone of Xtianity's falsehood. There's really no amount of reinterpretation or extrapolation that can twist it's meaning from the written context. It's very clear.
It was something that was prophesized by the Man Hisself and within a pretty measurable time frame and it never happened. Two thousand years later and the faithful still wait...

There are many philosophical contradictions to build a case with, but this predicition of Jebus' return by Himself that doesn't happen is the trough that holds all the pigslop for me.

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02-16-2003, 02:52 PM	#32
atheist_in_foxhole Guest Posts: n/a	Me too. In Alaska. But the bears that Jesus sent to eat those 42 children must have been a hell of a lot bigger. Not to mention hungrier.

02-16-2003, 08:19 PM	#35
Opera Nut Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,671	O.T. : "His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace." Matthew 10: Jesus said, "I come not in peace, but with a sword."

02-16-2003, 08:36 PM	#36
Radorth Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,872	He let the apostles have two swords, as it turned out. No evidence they did anything with them except slice bacon though. For more info, read the atheist H.G. Wells' commentary (in his Short History of the World) on the kind of sword Jesus brought. Hey Opera Nut, ever confront Muslims about the activities of Muhammed and associates? I'm thinking you might have a case. Rad

02-16-2003, 08:43 PM	#37
Radorth Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,872	It's fortunate Jesus had hair, I guess. OK let's get back to the contradictions. I only have a half hour to read and refute the rest of them. Rad

02-16-2003, 10:00 PM	#39
Opera Nut Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,671	Nope I don't mess with Muslims. I've had enough fun arguing with fundies. After explaining my beliefs, I've been told that I am "an evil, controlling, horrible woman", that I "don't understand the Bible very well", that I will counter their arguments for jesus with "more bullshit", and that furthermore, that I "Don't know what I believe" and am "confused". Not to mention that I and this man's father "now cease to exist in his eyes". In other words, they didn't get it. No comprende ingles. :banghead:

02-17-2003, 07:53 AM	#40
HaysooChreesto! Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: SoCal USA Posts: 7,737	The most telling and damning contradiction that I see in the NT is the passage where Jesus promises his followers that some of them will still be alive to see him come back and reclaim the world. I don't have the passage, but I'm sure someone else does. I read it again just this weekend while perusing through George H Smith's "Atheism: The Case Against God". I've read it before but I was bored. At any rate, that one passage (and several others like it) should be enough to convince anyone of Xtianity's falsehood. There's really no amount of reinterpretation or extrapolation that can twist it's meaning from the written context. It's very clear. It was something that was prophesized by the Man Hisself and within a pretty measurable time frame and it never happened. Two thousand years later and the faithful still wait... There are many philosophical contradictions to build a case with, but this predicition of Jebus' return by Himself that doesn't happen is the trough that holds all the pigslop for me.

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