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Scotthebrave · 06-13-2002, 09:47 AM

we all know they hate christians and jews....what would happen if a few atheists went into Iran and started preaching science and logic?

Bible Humper · 06-13-2002, 10:00 AM

KILL SLAY MURDER BURN

Praise to thee, most generous Allah

Proxima Centauri · 06-13-2002, 10:18 AM

Atheists are utterly beyond the pale. Atheists are totally inferior to people of the book (Jews Christians).
The KORAN says so. Don't you dare doubt the KORAN!

Wizardry · 06-13-2002, 10:22 AM

About a week after September 11, the major news networks were trying to educate their largely Christian audiences on Islam so that American Muslims could leave their houses without fear of being lynched. One of the cable networks, I forget which one, brought an Islamic scholar on the program to talk about Islam�s policy towards Christians. He reassured the audience at home that because of the shared Abrahamic heritage, Christians and Jews were in fact not infidels that Muslims spoke of so virulently, but rather �People of the Book� and were friends of Muslims so long as they did not attempt to attack Islam.

He quite clearly said that Osama bin Laden was misusing the word �infidel�, as a word for people that Muslims must fight against, by applying it to Christians and Jews. When asked what the term �infidel� really meant, he responded that its use in Koranic literature applies only to atheists.

Everyone at home was relieved, I�m sure.

Radcliffe Emerson · 06-13-2002, 10:24 AM

That's what the word "infidel" means, atheists.

The Resistance · 06-13-2002, 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by Scotthebrave:
<strong>we all know they hate christians and jews....what would happen if a few atheists went into Iran and started preaching science and logic?</strong>

Isn't that like asking what do the KKK think of black people?

Corwin · 06-13-2002, 10:33 AM

Actually 'infidel' essentially means 'unbeliever' as I understand it. So it would apply equally to atheists, hindus and other non-Abrahamic types. Christians and Jews are, as has been mentioned, 'Children of the Book.' Muslims accept that Jews and Christians worship the same god they do, they just feel that they're deluded about Mohammed.

Scotthebrave · 06-13-2002, 10:45 AM

let me re-phrase the question...

in county X, there are many religions and races.

For some reason, it becomes a muslim state (i.e. Iran, S. Arabia, Eygpt, etc).

What happens to the athiests? Can they live in peace with their Muslim countrymen?

daemon · 06-13-2002, 10:53 AM

From what I've gathered, atheists are generally unheard of in Muslim countries due to social pressures. Apostasy is even worse though--an atheist who was Muslim is to be killed, according to the Koran.

pug846 · 06-13-2002, 11:15 AM

You might want to correct the title of the thread. If you are going to stereotype a whole entire group of diverse individuals, at least have the common courtesy to spell their group name correctly.

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06-13-2002, 10:00 AM	#2
Bible Humper Veteran Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,125	KILL SLAY MURDER BURN Praise to thee, most generous Allah

06-13-2002, 10:18 AM	#3
Proxima Centauri Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: England, the EU. Posts: 2,403	Atheists are utterly beyond the pale. Atheists are totally inferior to people of the book (Jews Christians). The KORAN says so. Don't you dare doubt the KORAN!

06-13-2002, 10:22 AM	#4
Wizardry Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 363	About a week after September 11, the major news networks were trying to educate their largely Christian audiences on Islam so that American Muslims could leave their houses without fear of being lynched. One of the cable networks, I forget which one, brought an Islamic scholar on the program to talk about Islam�s policy towards Christians. He reassured the audience at home that because of the shared Abrahamic heritage, Christians and Jews were in fact not infidels that Muslims spoke of so virulently, but rather �People of the Book� and were friends of Muslims so long as they did not attempt to attack Islam. He quite clearly said that Osama bin Laden was misusing the word �infidel�, as a word for people that Muslims must fight against, by applying it to Christians and Jews. When asked what the term �infidel� really meant, he responded that its use in Koranic literature applies only to atheists. Everyone at home was relieved, I�m sure.

06-13-2002, 10:24 AM	#5
Radcliffe Emerson Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: the dark side of Mars Posts: 1,309	That's what the word "infidel" means, atheists.

06-13-2002, 10:33 AM	#7
Corwin Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,369	Actually 'infidel' essentially means 'unbeliever' as I understand it. So it would apply equally to atheists, hindus and other non-Abrahamic types. Christians and Jews are, as has been mentioned, 'Children of the Book.' Muslims accept that Jews and Christians worship the same god they do, they just feel that they're deluded about Mohammed.

06-13-2002, 10:45 AM	#8
Scotthebrave Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 20	let me re-phrase the question... in county X, there are many religions and races. For some reason, it becomes a muslim state (i.e. Iran, S. Arabia, Eygpt, etc). What happens to the athiests? Can they live in peace with their Muslim countrymen?

06-13-2002, 10:53 AM	#9
daemon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 737	From what I've gathered, atheists are generally unheard of in Muslim countries due to social pressures. Apostasy is even worse though--an atheist who was Muslim is to be killed, according to the Koran.

06-13-2002, 11:15 AM	#10
pug846 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,587	You might want to correct the title of the thread. If you are going to stereotype a whole entire group of diverse individuals, at least have the common courtesy to spell their group name correctly.

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