The Naked Mage

We'll reduce the entire world to a flat pane of atomic glass yet. Remember, you heard it here first.

THE_LEGENDARY_HQB

Thor Q Mada,

Excellent post! But you forgot this teeny weeny one.

Q. The supporters of what country have waged a 54 year old battle to stifle and marginalize dissent, de facto eviscerate the first Amendment, ensure that all critics are labeled Anti Semitic Jew haters, have pressured the government to give their pet country tens of billions of dollars in violation of U.S law, have excersized smothering influence out of all proportion to their population, have threatened our politicians with "reprisals" if they don't tow the line, have held up their country as a "shining beacon of democracy" when it is anything but, and generally ensure that not a week goes by without some kind of fluff story in the all too compliant media?

I think y'all know the answer!
respect,
The Legendary HQB, Esq.

Loren Pechtel

Originally posted by Thor Q. Mada
can only say that the evidence against OJ Simpson was far more convincing that the re-hashed stuff he presented to the world.

And OJ should have been convicted.

And on this forum of infidels, has it ever come to your notice that Israel is waging a religious war, while the Palestinians are waging a secular territorial battle??

The thread topic is Iraq. Why do you start out talking about Israel?

Question: Which country alone in the Middle East has nuclear weapons?
Answer: Israel.

So? I don't see Israel threatening other countries. Don't endanger them and they'll leave you alone. That's not true of Iraq.

Q: Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the nuclear
non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections? Answer: Israel.

Not signing the treaty is different than signing and then breaking it.

Q: Which country in the Middle East seized the sovereign territory of other
nations by military force and continues to occupy it in defiance of United
Nations Security Council resolutions? Answer: Israel.

Note who started the war, however. It wasn't Israel.

Q: Which country in the Middle East routinely violates the international
borders of another sovereign state with warplanes and artillery and naval
gunfire? Answer: Israel.

What country in the world is continually attacked without retaliation--none.

Q: What American ally in the Middle East has for years sent assassins into
other countries to kill its political enemies (a practice sometimes called
exporting terrorism)? Answer: Israel.

If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a cow have? 4!

Terrorism is the targeting of noncombatants. Using assassin or commando tactics against combatants isn't terrorism.

Q: In which country in the Middle East have high-ranking military officers
admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war were executed? Answer:
Israel.

Well, many countries execute murderers.

Q: What country in the Middle East created 762,000 refugees and refuses to
allow them to return to their homes, farms and businesses? Answer: Israel.

1) Israel didn't create them. They left at the advice of the Arab states who were planning to overrun Israel. Thus the various Arab states should provide a home for them.

2) The problem isn't the people who left, it's the fact they have been breeding like rabbits for the last 50 years.

Q. Which country in the Middle East has just recently used a weapon of mass
destruction, a one-ton smart bomb, dropping it in the center of a highly
populated area killing 15 civilians including 9 children? Answer: Israel

The respsonse this deserves would not be appropriate for me to use.

Q:. Which country in the Middle East signed the Oslo Accords promising to
halt any new Jewish Settlement construction, but instead, has built more
than 270 new settlements since the signing? Answer: Israel

Once the other side breaks a treaty it's not binding.

Amen-Moses

Iraq has only ever invaded two nations that I know of, Iran at the instigation of the western powers and Kuwait because they were stealing Iraqi oil and refused to stop. Do you have some examples I am unaware of?

Would the US invade Mexico if they started stealing US oil?

Amen-Moses

Loren Pechtel

Iraq had welched on it's debt. Kuwait was doing what it could to recover some of that money owed. The repo man taking stuff isn't theft.

99Percent

Actually Mexico nacionalized the U.S. owned oil companies in 1939 (not unlike Cuba nationalizing everything the American companies owned there when they revolutionized).

The U.S. could have invaded Mexico, because Mexico technically did steal U.S. "owned" oil.

Aerion

Q> Which middle-eastern country is surrounded by neighbors that have sworn to destroy them?

A> Israel.


Q> Which middle-eastern citizens were the victims of massive genocide in unprecidented numbers?

A> Israel.


Q> Which middle-eastern country is victimized almost daily by suicide bombing of civilians?

A> Israel.


Q> Which middle-eastern country won territory as the spoils of war and has given back all won territory to those countries (Egypt and Jordan) who recognized them diplomatically and signed a peace treaty?

A> Israel.


I'm not suggesting that there needs to be a few changes in Israel's policies, particually on the settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, but no other country faces the kinds of opposition as Israel purly for their race. There is a reason why they enjoy a certain level of lattitude in their action.

Every time Israel has relaxed its policies and extended the hands of peace, factions (such as Hammas) have stepped up it's attacks on Israel to deliberately sabotage the peace process. Sadly, most arab states will never recognize Israel and that is the basis of the problem.

Atticus_Finch

That is funny. Even if you believed Iraq's BS excuse for invading Kuwait how do you explain that their remedy was to ANNEX the whole country? Remember that Iraq immediately declared Kuwait to be its 19th province. If all they really wanted was to stop Kuwait from illegal drilling then go in and dismantle the wells. In fact, Iraq was making a play to control the world's oil supply and threaten Saudi Arabia into towing the line.

Regards,

Finch

Amen-Moses

Hey, if I'm expected to believe Bush's BS excuses then why should I not believe Iraq's?

Of course I don't believe either excuse but that doesn't change the fact that they had one!

Amen-Moses