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Old 08-02-2003, 09:10 AM   #11
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The authority is: whatever information comes from the afterlife. Near-death experiences are one. Spiritualist literature, which is channelled by mediums from people who live in the astral universes, is another.
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The authority is: whatever information comes from the afterlife. Near-death experiences are one.
I have had two near death experiences, perhaps we can compare notes.

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Spiritualist literature, which is channelled by mediums from people who live in the astral universes, is another.
There is no scientific indication which shows these astral universes are linked to an afterlife. There is also a lot of noise in the universe, perhaps if these mediums are too sensitive they may be tuned into the noise.

I have also had confirmed spiritual experiences, but these invisible energy forms again may only haunt this dimension of the universe. There is no clear indication of messages from the afterlife.
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emotional : I have had two near death experiences, perhaps we can compare notes.


I haven't had any near-death experience. I only know those which I have read about.

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There is no scientific indication which shows these astral universes are linked to an afterlife.


Scientific indication? If you go by science, then there is no scientific indication that there are astral universes at all! Science, as of today, is totally materialistic and does not recognise anything beyond the material universe. It is quite foolish to rely on science for information about those things. Scientists of today aren't interested in free enquiry, they're interested in debunking all "paranormal" phenomena and establishing the materialistic worldview.

By the way, I forgot to ask: on what authority do you base what you say (about omniGOD etc)?
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If you go by science, then there is no scientific indication that there are astral universes at all!
There is but it is a secret I have yet to publish, based on energy matter and consciousness. Nothing paranormal at all about it. It is quite high end science, if you don't mind.

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I haven't had any near-death experience. I only know those which I have read about.
Well let's compare what you have read about with what I experienced. We can possibly make an exchange.

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By the way, I forgot to ask: on what authority do you base what you say (about omniGOD etc)?
What have I said, on this thread? I have actually said nothing. What I am trying to find out is how all those arguments I have heard have come to know this unknown omniGOD including yours. I visited your website, it's well, quite a piece of work!
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emotional : There is but it is a secret I have yet to publish, based on energy matter and consciousness. Nothing paranormal at all about it. It is quite high end science, if you don't mind.


Oh. Well then, we'll hear about it when you get the Nobel Prize.

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Well let's compare what you have read about with what I experienced. We can possibly make an exchange.


There's a whole lot of them at near-death.com. I started, of course, with Raymond Moody's classic, Life After Life.

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What have I said, on this thread? I have actually said nothing. What I am trying to find out is how all those arguments I have heard have come to know this unknown omniGOD including yours.


The only thing I disputed is that the "unknown omniGOD" is actually unknown. He is veiled from us (by the veil of matter) but not unknown.

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I visited your website, it's well, quite a piece of work!
Thanks. I've only just begun it, there's more to come...
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The only thing I disputed is that the "unknown omniGOD" is actually unknown. He is veiled from us (by the veil of matter) but not unknown.
I believe this is my error, my mistake, which relates to the unknowable omniGOD since omniGOD is not 'known', in the best of words 'unknown'. omniGOD is only a label.

It is a bit of parody to speak of omniGOD and claim omniGOD is unknown at the same time. Perhaps know only by a brief outline, but substantially unknowable.
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There's a whole lot of them at near-death.com. I started, of course, with Raymond Moody's classic, Life After Life.
I am not interested in first person research on the matter. Sorry. If you relate some some of their facts here I will read, otherwise I am greatly occupied.
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