m00ner

I was looking around on my usual political satire sites when I came across a link filled with dozens of the Bible's facts about sexuality.

I couldn't help but notice that it said that homosexuality was a "sin'', and so was fantasizing about homosexuality and so on.

I have come to the conclusion that if a lot of Christians come across this site and see how the Bible puts being gay to shame, then all gay people will be screwed.

Now, I'm not gay, and I'm not really planning on being gay, but the fact of the matter is that Christians (I am not one of them ) are against homosexuality, which means that we'll get more hate rallies and things against gay.

Yes, this is my first post.

ex-xian

because they like it?

...don't flame me...

m00ner

Flaming is for fags.

I'm kidding, don't worry.

ex-xian

LOL.

Seriously, though. Bishop John Shelby Sponge (i think the last name is right) wrote a book called Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalism that dealt with this issue extensively. While I don't agree with all his assertions, he maintains that christianity must evolve or become culturally meaningless, especially regarding the homosexual issue. The bishop is in favor of gay marriages and believes that the bible should not be interpreted as a literally static document. He also has an interesting, but unconvincing IMO, thesis that asserts that Paul was a homosexual and that most of his fervor against sexuality in general and homosexuality specifically stemmed from his repression of those desires in light of the culture in which he lived.

m00ner

Isn't the purpose of Christianity to love one another?

They don't do a very good job of that.

Old Man

That's a good point. However, what is often forgotten, is the complimentary command, which to refuse fellowiship with those who call themselves Christians and who disobey the teaching of the apostles (eg 1 Cor 5 etc). This is as forcefully commanded of Christians, as the reciprocal command to love the obedient.

Most Christians in the world would have nothing to do with Sponge, so I think using him as a role model of a Christian is not going to be very conclusive.

Magus55

Homsexuality is a sin just like lying or being greedy. It can be forgiven through Jesus. If you don't believe in Jesus, what difference does being homosexual make? You're probably screwed anyway.

m00ner

I believe in Jesus, but I don't believe in the assumption that a woman was impregnated by an overseeing force.

I believe that a bunch of crazy people just had discovered pot or LSD, and thought they saw a guy walking on water.

PotatoError

maybe it was frozen...

Old Man

Quite a lot actually. It affects whether you will be able to repent in the future.

The bible says that homosexuality is a sign of someone being given over to God's wrath consequent on their rejection of God in their hearts. The more wrath that a person is given over to, the more innured they become to God. Think of Pharoah of the Egyptians, whose heart was hardened by God, through being subject to an increasing amount of wrath, and rejection of the wrath as being of divine origin.

The prognosis can only be that the more given over to sexual sin you are, the harder is your heart, and the more inurred you are to the wrath of God. Consequently, it is far harder to believe and repent. And the number of homosexuals / lesbians who ever repent is miniscule. Not worth counting. Its hardly even worth evangelizing to them. They regard true Christians as "haters" and seek to revenge themselves by law + damages on those who deprecate them.