dk

See Declaration of Independence... "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights..." and the Gettysburg Address, "Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.".

The Constitution said slaves were only 3/5s human, or sub human. Go figure.

Pain Paien

Everyone should take a moment to appreciate the absolute oblivious obtuseness that is behind this statement.

It's this complete and utter lack of empathy on Keith's part that makes this thread such a joke.

Pain Paien

Why don't you look it up, and see if it says that now? If not, this argument is a straw man.

Biff the unclean

No, not the Constitution.
Check god's morals about slaves.
Check Keith's "complete and utter lack of empathy" for his fellow humans.
Now note that the states which once had the knick-name of "the Slave Slates" are presently collectively called "the Bible Belt.":banghead:

Mageth

Originally posted by dk
See Declaration of Independence... "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights..."

Well, that certainly isn't making reference to the Bible, and if anything is referring to a Deistic God. Where in the bible are any "unalienable rights" given to us by God?

and the Gettysburg Address, "Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.".

I see no reference to God or Bible there at all.

In any case, I don't consider either of those as evidence that anything was given to us by God, particularly the Christian God. The DoI may be considered a reference to a "Creator", but it sure doesn't specify who that creator is. What rights were recognized for us in the Constitution were granted to us by the consensus of the framers and supporters of the Constitution. In particular, I can't see the Christian God depicted in the Bible being very much in support of the First Amendment.

The Constitution said slaves were only 3/5s human, or sub human. Go figure.

Fortunately, we humans corrected that error. And we sure didn't abolish slavery because the Bible said to, because it doesn't say anything about slavery being immoral.

dk

Diversity allows people to learn from others something new. That's why people that use their brains value diversity, especially amongst their friends. Generally people uncomfortable with diversity feel threatened and insecure.

For example kids at grade school, high school and college generally isolate themselves into monotone clicks. Why? because young people generally feel threatened and insecure because they are immature, not because they don't use their brains.

Biff the unclean

Diversity allows people to learn from others something new.
And "a man is known by the company he keeps"
That's why people that use their brains value diversity, especially amongst their friends.
People who use their brains try not to fall in with "bad seeds." A person who thinks that you are damned to hell for all eternity because of your religious beliefs is not capable of extending friendship and unworthy of receiving it.
Generally people uncomfortable with diversity feel threatened and insecure.
"Diversity" is a nice buzz word. Is that why you should have white supremacists over for coffee and cake? Generally when people are threatened they don't become buds with the abuser. Christians cannot behave in the fashion that they do and then expect decent people to want to waste their time on them.

Keith

That's purely your own opinion, but under your moral system I can't help wondering why it's so terrible (morally) that the terrorists did that! Please explain why the terrorists were "wrong" to fly planes into buildings when their own morality says its morally right to do it. If moral relativism is a legitimate viewpoint, why are the terrorists under any moral obligaton to you, or anyone else, to conform to your morality? Do you see the obvious contradiction here?

Keith

So are you changing your tune once again...saying that YOUR "humanistic" morals are the standard? Which is it, moral relativism or YOUR moral standard?

winstonjen

Please read the entire message before attacking strawmen. He said,