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winstonjen · 04-24-2003, 06:26 PM

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You apparently don't understand what free will is. It doesn't mean you wish it so, and poof it happens. God gave them over 100 years to use their free will to listen to him and avoid the judgement, then He let loose a disaster. They had the ability to choose Him or their sins, they chose their sins.

Magus, your god could have wowed them with a miracle to convince them to change their ways, or controlled their minds to stop them sinning. But he preferred to kill them and watch them burn in hell, like that was somehow better.

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Debating with you is really pointless. I try to explain things and you just give sarcastic arguments right back. Why do you bother? You obviously don't give a crap about God if He exists, and you certaintly aren't worth my time since all you do is ridicule and make rediculous opposing arguments. So why do you even reply?

Debating with you is really pointless. I try to explain things and you just give sarcastic arguments right back. Why do you bother? You obviously don't give a crap about our views, and you certaintly aren't worth my time since all you do is ridicule and make rediculous opposing arguments. So why do you even reply?

winstonjen · 04-24-2003, 06:28 PM

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Take precautions to do what? It was unborn. I'm sure you think she should have aborted it so only her husband got to kill her

No, I mean see a doctor, or ask the police for protection if she feared for her life.

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In ancient times, it did warrent the death penalty, It was a severe crime. Society has gotten sick and its common now.

Why is it so severe? Is it on the same level as murder? And society was ancient and depraved back then - there was no crime for raping a woman, according to your 'holy' bible.

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I feel sorry for whoever you marry, since you don't think adultery is bad, you will probably cheat on her.

I do feel adultery is bad, just not as bad as you do.

Magus55 · 04-24-2003, 06:28 PM

You are now on ignore winstonjen, until you grow up and learn to have a civil, non sarcastic debate.

winstonjen · 04-24-2003, 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by Magus55
You are now on ignore winstonjen, until you grow up and learn to have a civil, non sarcastic debate.

Oh the Irony!

I was trying not to be sarcastic, but nothing is good enough for almighty Magus!

Besides, if I'm on Ignore, how will Magus know if I've changed to satisfy his standards?

(I know Magus won't read this, but no big deal)

Sarcastic according to Magus - any argument he can't rationally defeat.

Paperstreet · 04-24-2003, 07:01 PM

Magus, there haven't been any posts ruder then yours. Your also not seeing the big picture. Your calling society sick, just because our standards are not the same as ancient times. I hope you get stoned to death for eating a cheeseburger or bacon.

Times change... ideas change... people change.

Yellum Notnef · 04-24-2003, 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by winstonjen
Besides, if I'm on Ignore, how will Magus know if I've changed to satisfy his standards?

Jesus will tell him.

winstonjen · 04-24-2003, 07:50 PM

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Jesus will tell him.

OH NO! I better convert!

Magus55 · 04-24-2003, 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by Paperstreet
Magus, there haven't been any posts ruder then yours. Your also not seeing the big picture. Your calling society sick, just because our standards are not the same as ancient times. I hope you get stoned to death for eating a cheeseburger or bacon.

Times change... ideas change... people change.

Yes he has. Iv'e tried to explain and answer the questions presented, but I just get sarcastic comments or ridicule. People here ask questions, I answer them. You know you aren't gonna like the answer since you think its all fake, so don't ask it. Would save us both time, and I don't like wasting my time trying to answer questions, just to get stupid comments in return. No one here cares to learn about anything I have to say, you just want to make fun of it and me.

mike_decock · 04-24-2003, 08:36 PM

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God only continued to keep the Pharoah's heart hardened after it already was.

What a crapload of BS. Read your freakin' Bible:

Exodus 4:21
And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go.

God hardened Pharaohs heart, not just once but ELEVEN TIMES.

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The Pharaoh even said he would give in if God stopped them. So what did God do?

And every time he gave in God Hardened Pharaoh's Heart.

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He stopped them as the Pharaoh asked. And what did the Pharaoh do?

The Pharaoh said he would let them go until God hardened the Pharaoh's heart.

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Said, ah nevermind - not letting the people go.

After God hardened the Pharaoh's heart.

-Mike...

mike_decock · 04-24-2003, 08:40 PM

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What should He have to done to prevent it, other than do anything that violates free will?

Oh, violating free will is a taboo for God... unless He's busy hardening the Pharaoh's heart, that is

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-Mike...

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Magus55 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 7,204	You are now on ignore winstonjen, until you grow up and learn to have a civil, non sarcastic debate.

04-24-2003, 07:01 PM	#35
Paperstreet Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 175	Magus, there haven't been any posts ruder then yours. Your also not seeing the big picture. Your calling society sick, just because our standards are not the same as ancient times. I hope you get stoned to death for eating a cheeseburger or bacon. Times change... ideas change... people change.

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