The Lone Ranger

Yeah, I'll just bet.

tgamble

Excuse me, thank you so much for this wonderful resource! Obviously, the information here totally refutes over 200 years of scientific study by thousands of scientists including the Christians who first figured out that the earth was old.

Could you answer a few questions for me? My stupid geologist professor, who only has a Phd in geology and 30 years of experience in the field, has obviously been lying to me. I'm in need of an honest answer from honest people like you.

Could you explain how plants got to different levels? Could you explain how living enviroment is relevent since the waters would tear up the plants anyway? Did some plants run faster than others perhaps?

Could you explain why no reptiles exist before amphibians. why insects birds, flying insects, and flying reptiles aren't on the same level? Could you explain the series of fossils from reptile to mammal that so clearly illistrates the evolution of the jaw?

Would you be kind enough to respond to this

"For instance, conglomerate is a type of rock that looks kind of like a natural concrete. It has a matrix of sandstone or other fine-grained rock, but embedded in this are many rounded pebbles of various sizes, and even boulders... The Institute for Creation Research implies that Noah's Flood was responsible for all the great concentrations of conglomerates throughout the world. But they nowhere face up to the great problems that this idea creates. One major difficulty is that many large deposits of conglomerate lie on top of great thicknesses - often several miles - of fine-grained sedimentary rock. The great conglomerate sea cliffs near Marseilles, for instance, are hundreds of feet high and contain boulders more than a foot in diameter. What purely natural processes would enable the Flood to deposit a thickness of several miles of fine-grained sediments first, and then place the boulder-laden conglomerates on top? Have Flood geologists not heard the expression, to sink like a stone?

Another problem for them is the clean, sharp lines often found at the boundaries between geologic layers. (The layers which face upward often have fossil limpets or barnacles attached to them. This shows that those layers had time to harden into rock and attract rock-clinging shellfish before the next stratum was laid down, which is hardly likely to happen in a flood that laid down a mile-thick layer of unconsolidated sediments in less than a year.) These sharp boundary lines are particularly troublesome in the case of conglomerate rock atop underlying sandstone.

Clearly, the lower layer must already have hardened into rock before the conglomerate was dumped on top, as otherwise the stones would have sunk into it. If one flood deposited both layers in quick succession, how could the underlying sandstone have hardened so fast?

Above all, there is the fact that the boulders inside conglomerate often contain fossils. How did they get there if, as Flood geologists assert, fossils are the remains of creatures that died in the Flood? And these boulders in conglomerate are nearly always rounded, as if they had been rolled around on a river or sea bed for long periods before being dumped in their last resting place. Of course, one can always argue that God specially created these rounded, fossil-laden boulders, and then miraculously caused the Flood to place them on top of the fine-grained deposits... [Alan Hayward, Creation and Evolution]"

<a href="http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Temple/9917/flood.html" target="_blank">http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Temple/9917/flood.html</a>

What? "Get out and never come back you atheist swine?" What kind of answer is that?

That flood predictions site would make a great handout. Explain THAT Ken Ham!

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Randy

I can virtually guarantee you that they will have explanations good enough to fool most of their visitors and all of the contributors.

Doubting Didymus

Randy is correct. No one who has already accepted the creationist message will ever believe anything on some sodding pamphlet.

When was the last time you had a pamphlet stuffed in your face and thought, 'hmm, I really must take the time to examine this with an open mind', especially when you are busy?

The last pamphlet I had thrown at me read: 'Satan and his demons got together one day and had a contest to see who could decieve the most people into questioning THE TRUE WORD OF THE LORD AND GOD, JESUS CHRIST.' Straight in the bin. To read it would be a complete waste of effort.

Imagine yourself from the creationist perspective. You are visiting a place displaying real scientific evidence of the work of the lord your creator. You have been repeadedly warned of the narrow minded atheist evolutionists who refuse to let honest christian scientists publish their ground breaking research.

Suddenly there is a pamphlet in your hand. the title reads 'why the great flood couldn't possibly explain the geological column'. Some smug atheist group is handing them out. Do you read through it with an open mind, or immediately destroy it? After all, you already know the truth, and do not need to be lied to when you are here to see the real scientific evidence for yourself.

Richiyaado

Yes, it's a Kentucky State Park, but really within Greater Cincinnati. Used to live there and visited the park several times. It's an ancient salt lick with a large deposit of bones (mammoth, bison, sloth, bear, etc.) dating from the late Pleistocene and later.

If I remember, some of the first specimens collected from the site in the 1700s were sent to no less than Benjamin Franklin for examination. Later, William Clark collected specimens there, and Charles Lyell visited during a tour of America in the mid 1800s.

With such a history, it's both ironic and sad that something so ludicrous is being built only a few miles away.

mibby529

A creation museum? Will they have Garden of Earthly Delights next to statues of Adam and Eve with the serpent? LOL And can we expect the Sistine Chapel to be reproduced on the ceiling? LOL

scigirl

HAHAHHA. Now there's a museum I would go see.

Heh, although Hironymous Bosch (spelling?) does indeed frighten me a bit. He had a bit of an obsession with objects sticking out of butts.

scigirl

Randy

I don't think so but you can expect lifelike renditions of some of those dinosaurs that went with Noah on the ark. I remember reading something about their famous dinosaur model maker in the local news rag but I don't remember the details.
Randy

Doubting Didymus

Quite! I think nasty mr Bosch probably converted more people to theism by making them fear hell than all the 'nice' theistic artists combined ever converted through love of god.

(Imagine what the world would be like if Bosch was the painter of the cistene chapel roof? One thing would be certain: god would probably have something sticking out of his holy bottom.)

Albion

I wonder what the pastors of the moderate churches in that area think of this circus coming to town.