Friar Bellows

Can you please explain how this film is pro-capitalist?

ju'iblex

Worst comedy nomination:

Hot Wet American Summer <or whatever its called> from the cast of SNL.

utter crap.

Perchance

Hi Pomp,

While I thought love was being devalued, I didn't think that was the movie's point of view. I thought it was saying that "Love is love, even if it does come from a robot child imprinted on you by saying seven words," and while this devalued the love that most people think of by that name, it didn't seem at work within the movie. This is why the ending seems a cop-out. David never suffers the loss of love. The clone mother is brought back to life in one of the most deus ex machina moves I've ever seen, and after spending a "perfect" day with her without his brother, David apparently just dies. If the devaluation of love was really the movie's message, the ending would still have destroyed it, since David gets what he wants.

As it was, I thought the movie devalued love without meaning to. Love is any emotion one cares to name, and if you don't get it the first time around, god-like mechas (or aliens) will come along and give it to you.

Rather religious, at that.

-Perchance.

nogods4me

Oh man, wasn't that the Star Wars rip-off with Richard (John Boy) Thomas?
They tossed glowing orange walnuts out into the universe to find some heroes to save their world. And had some little alien guys that gave off enough heat to use them to cook campfire food.
That was awful

HaysooChreesto!

Don't you dare cap on Kung Pow. My kids and I had a great time watching that one. But then again, I consider Starship Troopers to be an awesome movie just because it was so bad. It was a not so subtle takeoff of all the old WW2 John Wayne movies (Plus there were naked people!).

A thread about bad movies and no one brings up every "Rocky" sequel ever made? Who can forget Mr. T as the evil Clubber Lang, who when asked about his prediction for the fight, he simply replies "PAAAAAAIN". I'm laughing just thinking about it now.

And Rocky IV (Yes, we must use Roman Numerals) with the uber evil, steroid taking, Apollo Creed demising, James Brown horrifying Ivan Drago. What a blow to American pride when Creed is killed in the ring after James Brown sings "Living in America". We all knew that Rocky would have to fight the dreaded and seemingly invincible Rusky to restore our collective (subliminal error?) dignity.

And what about the fact that until Rocky V (yes, still with the Roman numerals), Rocky actually became smarter and more cerebral by taking more blows to the head?

I don't count B movies as bad movies. They're supposed to suck. It's the big budget lemons like Battlefield Earth (Far and away, the suckiest big money movie ever made) that deserve our barbs.
There's something charming and hilarious about a 50 million dollar pile of dog crap.

Shadownought

Because we're gluttons for punishment from bad movies, a few weeks ago my friend and I sat through two Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen movies in a row that were playing on television.

Afterwards, we had difficulty speaking and recalling vocabulary. I'm not kidding, either. Three hours of Olsen twins dulled our brains until we could barely think. It took me a full thirty seconds to figure out the word for "big square thing where you sit and take notes-" a classroom.

KoopaFanatic

Which was which?

HaysooChreesto!

LOL! It's funny Dave, how ones politics can color their perception of film. When I see "It's a Wonderful Life", I see the classic evil capitalist screwing over the hard working average joe, who through devine and deserved intervention saves the town (the collective). Or maybe we're both way off base and shouldn't read too much into old and bad classic movies.
I've still never seen the thing from start to finish, it's a wonderful cure for insomnia.

NialScorva

The more I thought about it, the more I liked the full ending. It starts off with the creepy love of the robot, then makes you start feeling for him in an unfeeling, even antipathetic, world. The end itself was a reversal of the sympathy the movie generated for the robot. While it seemed he was on a wholesome quest for nothing more than love, in the end he took the greedy way out, becoming just as self centered and uncaring as the society that produced him.

It also helps that in my mind, the mother wasn't brought back at all, she was brought back only as an expression of his memory and desire for her. In otherwords, he sacrificed her forever in order to have one day where she was nothing more than an idealized charicture of what he wanted her to be, and it made him happier than anything else in his life.

Far from it being sappy idealized Hollywood love, I saw it as a commentary on that concept of love.

Monkeybot

I haven't read through this entire thread so I may be repeating some.

Face/Off - I had a vague loathing for Nicholas Cage before I saw this movie, but F/O managed to turn it into the hatred I now bear him today. (Con Air didn't help, but at least that movie had Dave Chappelle.)

Moulin Rouge - Utterly pretentious crap.

Jesus of Nazareth - OK, it's actually a pretty good biblical epic as these things go, but I had to watch it a billion times in high school.

First Wives' Club Nuff said.

Game of Death - Yes, the fight with Kareem Abdul-Jabaar at the end rocks, but everything leading up to that is pure pain.

Eegah - I know it's not fair to count Mystery Science Theater 3000 movies, but this one was just SO bad, SO awful, and SO disgusting that it really stands out among the bad ones. Ditto for Manos.

Meanwhile another MST3K gem, Angels' Revenge, was so bad that even I as a heterosexual female have to admit the breasts were the best part of the movie.