Toto

I have received this notice:

San Luis Obispo is about a 5 hour drive for me, so going to this would probably be an overnight trip - either a long drive by myself through rush hour Friday night traffic, or coordinating with friends, or taking a day off work and taking Amtrak up the coast. Does anyone have any opinion on whether it would be worth the effort to see this? I would hope that there would be a videotape.

edited to add: Ludemann has a page in the secular web's library:

<a href="http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/gerd_ludemann/index.shtml" target="_blank">Gerd Lüdemann</a>

where you can order his books and read articles by and about him.

edited again to add that you can't order his books on that page, but you can through the bookstore <a href="http://www.secweb.org/bookstore/author.asp?AuthorID=79" target="_blank">here</a>.

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James Still

Toto, can you give those of us who are unable to attend a post-debate report?

Toto

If I go I will, but I am not sure if the travel time is worth it. I'm mulling it over. Is Ludemann a great speaker? Would hearing him debate be so much better than reading his books?

Benjamin Franklin

Here is a book review of a previous debate between Craig and Ludemann on the same topic

<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0830815694/InternetInfidelsA" target="_blank">Jesus' Resurrection: Fact or Figment? </a>

{Edited to fix a long URL that was stretching the browser window, and to give II credit.}

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Echo

How I would love to see this debate! I hope a transcript will be available on the web or at least a tape available for purchase.

I've read through most of Craig's debates, and he is indeed a formidable opponent when defending the generic "philosopher's god." I think he will fare much worse at defending the claim that a dead man reanimated after three days.

MOJO-JOJO

Isn't this like telling someone the end of the movie before they've seen it??

Hopefully this will be a "good sequel".

Benjamin Franklin

Toto wanted to know whether it was worth his time to attend the debate

Tjun Kiat

Toto

Thanks for the book reference. (If I buy a used copy, does II get any credit?)

I don't think that anyone attending the debate is going to have the ending spoiled for them. I think it may be more like professional wrestling, where you know it may be fixed, but you still go for the action. My question is whether the action is worth the drive time.

Polycarp

<strong> Yep, they’ve already debated this same topic before. The book contains a transcript of the debate, along with some very informative replies from four scholars (two pro-Ludemann, two pro-Craig). Ludemann and Craig were also able to respond to the critiques. Very helpful book ! I wrote a review of it at Amazon. See if you can figure out which review is mine… <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0830815694/qid=1010773741/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_11_5/107-0256064-5728577" target="_blank"> Polycarp’s Review of “Jesus’ Resurrection: Fact or Figment?” </a>

I’m guessing Ludemann will change one or two points in his argument. Craig will use the same arguments he always uses. He’s debated the issue many times, and I don’t imagine he’ll change anything.

Toto – IMO, you’d be better off reading the book than spending all that time in your car and having to fork out money for a hotel. I’d be shocked if either debater drastically changes their approach from their first debate.

Toto

From reading the reviews, it looks like Craig is a professional debater, and Luedemann was not as articulate in defending his views. I wonder why they are staging a rematch? Had Luedemann had some debate coaching?